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Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

This is an offshoot of a previous question: I am wondering if there is any physical way to tell if my Ramjet 350 has a 5 or 6 quart oil pan.

Can it be recognized by simply looking at it?
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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

I really don't understand why people don't ask the people that built the engine. They will know beyond a shadow of a doubt. Why make it so hard on yourself?

http://www.chevrolet.com/content/dam...e-12499120.pdf

Installation instructions for a Ramjet 350. Happens to have specs. 5 quart without oil filter.
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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

Hi ttwo

Not to be cynical, I had the same question for the Hamburger “Kicked Out” Pan I got with my used 427 Engine I bought like 12 years ago.

Put 6 Quarts of oil in it on the Dyno, Cranked it over to verify Oil Pressure.
Nothing on the Dip Stick, added 1 Quart, Pulled the Dipstick out “Add 1 QT”

I guess I would say I have an 8 Quart Pan.
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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

70 LT1 pan - 5 qts which includes a long PF35 oil filter.




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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

thanks for the replies! I don't know the builder and the guy who I bought it from doesn't know as he sold it before ever changing the oil. I understand that it can come with 5 or 6 quart oil pan as an option. So the spec sheet that I looked up wasn't helpful. But thanks for keeping me in check!

The picture that you have is different from my oil pan shown above so I may assume that I have the 6 quart version since you have the 5 quart version?!
I just assumed that there would be some telltail sign that it was a 6 vs 5 quart pan...
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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

Yeah, I put it up there just for comparison.

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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

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Hi ttwo

Not to be cynical, I had the same question for the Hamburger “Kicked Out” Pan I got with my used 427 Engine I bought like 12 years ago.

Put 6 Quarts of oil in it on the Dyno, Cranked it over to verify Oil Pressure.
Nothing on the Dip Stick, added 1 Quart, Pulled the Dipstick out “Add 1 QT”

I guess I would say I have an 8 Quart Pan.
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Hi ttwo

Do you have oil in it now ?
What does the Dipstick read ?

If there is no oil in your Engine, add 5 quarts, Start and read your oil pressure.
Shut the Engine off and Check your Oil Level.
If it's down 1 Quart, add that and you have a 6 Quart Pan - Do Not Overfill your Engine with oil.

Also, is that one of Lokar style Dip Sticks ? I have never seen those Dipsticks other than in the Magazines, I do not know if they need to be Calibrated to your Oil Pan/ Proper Level.

Maybe someone with a Lokar Dipstick can Chime in and give you advise.
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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

I do have a Lokar dipstick. It measures 16.5 inches. I have now put just over 6 quarts of oil in it and did change the oil filter prior to all of this. I now read JUST on the lower part of the dipstick. It's hard to tell if this would be a 5 or a 6 quart setup. If I put another .7 quarts in I think that would be too much. So I may leave it where it is at at the low end of the dipstick...

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Hi ttwo
Do you have oil in it now ?
What does the Dipstick read ?

If there is no oil in your Engine, add 5 quarts, Start and read your oil pressure.
Shut the Engine off and Check your Oil Level.
If it's down 1 Quart, add that and you have a 6 Quart Pan - Do Not Overfill your Engine with oil.

Also, is that one of Lokar style Dip Sticks ? I have never seen those Dipsticks other than in the Magazines, I do not know if they need to be Calibrated to your Oil Pan/ Proper Level.

Maybe someone with a Lokar Dipstick can Chime in and give you advise.
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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

I would get on the GM Tech Forum and post your pan pic
and ask what size it is and how long the dip stick should be
and ask what GM stick part number will work.
http://www.gminsidenews.com/forums/f53/

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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

The RAMJET 350 engine includes an oil pan, GM Part Number 10242245 (5 quart excluding oil fillter) Page 5---> http://static.summitracing.com/globa...on%20guide.pdf

This pan was originally design for marine and truck usage and may cause interference problems when installed in certain applications. Check for clearance before installation.



The oil pan used on the ZZ4 engine, GM Part Number 12528916 (new PN 12557558 ), is recommended as a replacement. This is a four-quart, right-hand dipstick oil pan and gasket

The oil dipstick for the RAMJET 350 engine is on the right-hand (passenger) side of the block. Check for clearance when replacing an early-model block with a left-hand dipstick configuration. The RAMJET 350 engine does not come with an oil dipstick. When using the oil pan supplied with the engine, the recommended oil dipstick and oil dipstick tube part numbers are 10190942 and 12552920 respectively.

If the ZZ4 oil pan is installed on this engine, the recommended oil dipstick and tube part numbers are 12551144 and 12551154 respectively. This oil dipstick tube bolts to the engine block below the deck surface, and can be used with header-type exhaust systems.

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Re: Ramjet 350: how to tell 5 or 6 quart oil pan?

Hi ttwo
Like Mark has shown, get the right info for your pan - First.

You also need to make sure not only the Dip Stick is the Proper length to reflect your Oil Level but the Sleeve/ Tube you stick the Dipstick down into.
If that is too long, just adding oil so it will show Full on the Dipstick is Wrong.

Was that Lokar Dipstick from another Engine/ Used, it will only work if the oil level to be maintained in Ramjet engine is the Same distance from the Top of the Tube/ Sleeve and the Length of the Dipstick.

Like I said for my Engine, I installed the Tube and put 6 Quarts into it, Stuck the Dipstick into it and No Oil was on the stick, Added 1 more Quart and it read to Add 1 Quart. I was 99% sure I have an 8 Quart Pan anyway.

From Marks info, looks like you have a 5 Quart pan Unless someone from GM or your Engine Supplier can provide you that you have a 6 Quart pan.

I added 2 Pictures, one is a Pan with a Dipstick sticking into it. Where the tube comes into the pan does not change. And 3 different Dipsticks, All 3 are Even to the Left of the Picture, To the Right – Al Different lengths.

The Variables are the Length of the Tube, Length of the Stick and Depth or Shape of the Pan (Oil Pump & Pick Up) that gives you How Much Oil and When it’s Full – Allot going on here, more than just Sticking a Dipstick from one engine into another.
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