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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 23rd, 14, 10:18 PM Thread Starter
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427 COPO Engine

Thoughts on this engine?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330861539577...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

My date coded COPO block in my '69 Yenko Tribute might be cracked. Getting it tested tomorrow. Started the process of finding a replacement.

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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 14, 01:33 AM
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Re: 427 COPO Engine

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Thoughts on this engine?

http://www.ebay.com/itm/330861539577...%3AMEBIDX%3AIT

My date coded COPO block in my '69 Yenko Tribute might be cracked. Getting it tested tomorrow. Started the process of finding a replacement.

Thanks.
Are date codes really necessary for a tribute "clone" ? Why would anyone pay for a better fake ?

I own a SS 396 clone that was originally a smallblock car. I have the protecto-plate. I have nothing to hide.

Why is a tribute car with a correct date-coded block worth any more than mine ?

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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 14, 02:50 AM
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Re: 427 COPO Engine

Are you after a particular date or block casting? I have a 512(complete engine, std bore)with less than 70,000 miles on it dated June '70......Won't be cheap though
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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 14, 06:47 AM Thread Starter
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Are date codes really necessary for a tribute "clone" ? Why would anyone pay for a better fake ?

I own a SS 396 clone that was originally a smallblock car. I have the protecto-plate. I have nothing to hide.

Why is a tribute car with a correct date-coded block worth any more than mine ?
I never said I was trying to "hide" anything. I was simply asking for an opinion on a complete engine that I found on eBay. I wasn't asking for your opinion on my car.
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post #5 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 24th, 14, 08:27 AM Thread Starter
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Are you after a particular date or block casting? I have a 512(complete engine, std bore)with less than 70,000 miles on it dated June '70......Won't be cheap though
I currently have a 512 as well. I'm not sure exactly what I am going to do yet. Just looking and thinking right now.
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post #6 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 25th, 14, 04:42 PM
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Re: 427 COPO Engine

There's an F 14 9 std bore 512 short block for sale HERE. Have no knowledge of seller or item, but may be worth a call.

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There's an F 14 9 std bore 512 short block for sale HERE. Have no knowledge of seller or item, but may be worth a call.
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post #8 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 25th, 14, 06:39 PM
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I never said I was trying to "hide" anything. I was simply asking for an opinion on a complete engine that I found on eBay. I wasn't asking for your opinion on my car.
Didn't mean to imply that you wanted to hide anything.

Just wondering why anyone would care about date codes on a clone.

I have seen others do this. Does anyone know if this type of clone brings a higher price ?

Seems to me you would have to go the whole route; correct date-coded everything which would make the car very expensive. Plus who wants a 4-speed or turbo 400 anymore ?

I'm not trying to offend anyone. Everyone has different tastes.

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post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old Jun 25th, 14, 11:22 PM
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To the original poster I have a complete 512 block 427 engine with 4000 odd miles if interested .
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Didn't mean to imply that you wanted to hide anything.

Just wondering why anyone would care about date codes on a clone.

I have seen others do this. Does anyone know if this type of clone brings a higher price ?

Seems to me you would have to go the whole route; correct date-coded everything which would make the car very expensive. Plus who wants a 4-speed or turbo 400 anymore ?

I'm not trying to offend anyone. Everyone has different tastes.
I don't know why but.

I'm doing a Yenko Trubute 12437 car. My research indicates the value will be higher with a 427 ci motor. A 454 or 496 stroker dressed as a 427 doesn't do it. Buyers want a 427.

I went with a mkIV block 6332 crank correct rods and forged pistons and a roller cam. Topped with alum heads painted orange. It is a much better performing engine. I have about $5k in it. The date coded 427 motor with the correct matching parts would probably be close to $15k.

I determined the cost of a date coded 427 will not add enough value to justify the investment and would mean a higher selling price point.

For the tribute I also found that using a 5 or 6 speed tranny will add substantial value over a 4 speed. People that buy these cars want to drive them.

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I don't know why but.

I'm doing a Yenko Trubute 12437 car. My research indicates the value will be higher with a 427 ci motor. A 454 or 496 stroker dressed as a 427 doesn't do it. Buyers want a 427.

I went with a mkIV block 6332 crank correct rods and forged pistons and a roller cam. Topped with alum heads painted orange. It is a much better performing engine. I have about $5k in it. The date coded 427 motor with the correct matching parts would probably be close to $15k.

I determined the cost of a date coded 427 will not add enough value to justify the investment and would mean a higher selling price point.

For the tribute I also found that using a 5 or 6 speed tranny will add substantial value over a 4 speed. People that buy these cars want to drive them.
Thanks. Good info.

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Drive them and race them. I made 16 passes at the FAST race at martin a few weeks ago and never opened the hood. I even tried a set of the m&h race masters and they were no better than my F-70 polyglass good years ? The 28 inch slick killed the gear.

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