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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Oct 20th, 14, 02:29 PM Thread Starter
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396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

Hi guys. Its so far down the road but I have a 350ci now in my 68 and I KNOW it will be yanked for another motor. Was considering doing a LSx swap but after all is said and done forget about it. Its more than the car cost.

What I am looking for is a 396 motor that a company builds. Maybe a LME type builder. I looked on Chevrolet Performance but found 350 or 383 then to the 427's. No 396's.

Why a 396? Always wanted a camaro with one. It won't be original but I don't care. Nothing on this car is original.

Question is.. Does anyone know of a motor builder that builds these things without me supplying the block? Looking for a new motor but without electronics. Staying Carburated.

Thanks. Again I am not in the market right now.. I just want to get a game plan for this car and start to price things out and build accordingly.
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Re: 396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

Summit Racing offers 396 crate engines. http://www.summitracing.com/search/p...-size/6-5l-396

But for some reason, they all say small block?

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Thanks. Thats weird it says small block. I thought all 396's were big blocks? I guess I am wrong. Not the first time today I saw 396 and small block in the same sentence.
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Thanks. Thats weird it says small block. I thought all 396's were big blocks? I guess I am wrong. Not the first time today I saw 396 and small block in the same sentence.
Here is a write-up on building you a 396ci small blockhttp://www.superchevy.com/how-to/eng...i-small-block/.

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Thanks. Thats weird it says small block. I thought all 396's were big blocks? I guess I am wrong. Not the first time today I saw 396 and small block in the same sentence.

The original 396's were big blocks, dunno why they picked that displacement for a small block, other than probably hoping to cash in on name recognition.

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If you are thinking BBC. I'd go 427 as it's the same cost to build as a 396. You can use a Mark IV block with a GM 6223 Forged Crank.

Or it's actually less expensive to build a 454 or a 496 stroker.

You can always badge it as a 396

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Re: 396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

It isn't a big block, but will give you some big block power.

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-TURN-K...5c26ac&vxp=mtr

If you already had a big block engine, it might make sense to use as many existing parts as possible, and build a really nice motor. Starting from scratch, not sure it is the way to go. Personally, I think the big block is too heavy for a first gen. Handles better with a small block.

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Re: 396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

Not sure anyone will criticize you for having a "bigger" big block in your car.
When in doubt add displacement.

Besides if you put a small block in it, it won't look right with 396 emblems on it even if it is a 396 SB.

If I didn't already have the correct 396 for my car, it would have a 540 in it.
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If you MUST have a big block:

http://www.ebay.com/itm/CHEVY-496-69...9ca140&vxp=mtr

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If you are thinking BBC. I'd go 427 as it's the same cost to build as a 396. You can use a Mark IV block with a GM 6223 Forged Crank.

Or it's actually less expensive to build a 454 or a 496 stroker.

You can always badge it as a 396
John is absolutely correct, if your gonna do this $$ why hold back on way more power for the same price. Hard to beat a 496BBC with 625 foot pounds of torque ...

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Re: 396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

Have Mark Jones (vortecpro on chevelles.com) build you a big block.

www.vortecproperformance.com

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Why a 396? Always wanted a camaro with one. It won't be original but I don't care. Nothing on this car is original.
A 427, 454, 496 and 396 look identical.

My 454 is badged a 396.

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Re: 396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

I would go at least 454. If you don't have a good forged crank for the block or just want to have an all fresh rotating assembly, go with a 4.25 inch stroke crank. At 0.030 overbore that is 489 cubic inches, or 496 at 0.060 over.

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Re: 396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

I do see a few clean 396 short blocks on ebay 400 to 600 bucks. May want to look through them. Just a thought. Good luck.

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Re: 396ci Tossing Idea's Around..

The best new 454 crate engine IMHO is this one : http://www.crateenginedepot.com/ZZ45...P9995C604.aspx

This is a smooth idling bad-arse engine that will eat any 396.

If you want to buy a rebuildable engine and save money, have you looked on Craigslist ?

Be patient and buy a complete 454, either to rebuild or if you get lucky, a good running engine.

Here is one near me that's a good deal : http://nashville.craigslist.org/pts/4723358926.html

Check out the deals and come back to this thread and ask for advice.

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