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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Apr 13th, 04, 06:09 AM Thread Starter
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Not sure if my starter is on the way out...or some other electrical issue...

Prior to last Fall, the car started right up.....
After a few months in storage, I tried starting the car....no cranking/clicking whatsoever...

The battery is new from last season...
Dash/dome/headlights are all fine when I key to the start position...


I took some 80 grit sandpaper on the terminals/connections...they were all clean to begin with...


Maybe the ign. switch?

I do need to check the fuses........
I have the starter a few hits with a hammer....nuthin...

Any way I can rule out the starter as my problem....maybe grounding the solenoid to crank it manually? Not sure how exactly to do this...

Wiring harness is in bad shape to begin with...so who knows...


Any feedback/sugggestions welcomed
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post #2 of 15 (permalink) Old Apr 13th, 04, 06:46 AM
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Even if the battery was new last Fall, that's the first thing I'd suspect.
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Even if the battery was new last Fall, that's the first thing I'd suspect.
I'll try jumping it later...
ty [img]graemlins/beers.gif[/img]

Anybody else on how to manually 'jump' the starter?

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post #4 of 15 (permalink) Old Apr 13th, 04, 11:05 AM
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Do the lights dim when you try to start it? If they don't, then it's not the battery, since the starter isn't attemping to start the motor. If the lights do dim, then the battery is probably low, or the starting is having an internal problem.

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Do the lights dim when you try to start it? If they don't, then it's not the battery, since the starter isn't attemping to start the motor. If the lights do dim, then the battery is probably low, or the starting is having an internal problem.
The lights did dim verrry slightly...that's what was kinda confusing....Even with the headlights on....not much dimming..

I just tried jumping it...the starter did kick in and turned the motor...just not enuff to catch. Progress...

I'll buy a trickle charger later. I think that should do it...

Thanks again for the feedback

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Just out of curiousity did you remove the ground cable when you parked it for the winter? If not, do you have a clock or anything else that could drain the battery?
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Just out of curiousity did you remove the ground cable when you parked it for the winter? If not, do you have a clock or anything else that could drain the battery?
I left the ground on, partly out of laziness, and partly because I did start it a few times early in the winter season...

But no clock, or anything else that may have drained it...

Also curious is....the headlamps didnt dim when I turned the key to the Start position.....
Normally, a drained battery would really dim the lights, right?


I just picked up a charger....I'll put it up once I get home....hopefully that will do it

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If the battery was weak enough to not even pull the solenoid in, then no - it won't necessarily dim the lights a great deal.

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I think it would dim the lights quite a bit. If the battery is that weak, then the solenoid is going to draw alot of the battery's current capacity, and there wouldn't be enough left to keep the lights bright (and they wouldn't be bright in the first place).

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If the battery was weak enough to not even pull the solenoid in, then no - it won't necessarily dim the lights a great deal.
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I think it would dim the lights quite a bit. If the battery is that weak, then the solenoid is going to draw alot of the battery's current capacity, and there wouldn't be enough left to keep the lights bright (and they wouldn't be bright in the first place).
I have seen both of these situations take place...the former one seems to be my current pain in the ***... (but who knows with this car)

I plan on redoing the wiring harness..


After hooking up my new charger, I tried a 50amp jump...solenoid engaged, engine cranked, then the batt gave out

I let it charge overnight....hopefully today will bring better news

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post #11 of 15 (permalink) Old Apr 15th, 04, 03:28 AM
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Good luck with it! Do you have a multimeter?

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Good luck with it! Do you have a multimeter?
just a test light.... [img]graemlins/sad.gif[/img]
I should invest......any recommendations?

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Fluke has some nice ones, and I like my Craftsman model. Always works well.

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Fluke has some nice ones, and I like my Craftsman model. Always works well.
Thanks....yeah, I like Craftsman stuff
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it is alivvvvve.... [img]graemlins/hurray.gif[/img]

Battery must have been really drained.
I let the thing charge up last night.....started right up today

Thanks for all the input...on to the next task....

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