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post #1 of 7 (permalink) Old Apr 4th, 03, 05:54 AM Thread Starter
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Here is my dilema. I have severely limited funds. I have a unfortunate history with my 454 in my camaro. It is my own fault! I build "junk motors" that is all my budget allows. I have trashed my crank and a few rods. and scored a cylinder. I intend to hone the cylinder as best I can. I was hoping that someone could offer advice on how to reconstruct the lower end or even upgrade on the cheap. I dont think I can spend more than 2-3 hundred total. Am I nuts or...

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post #2 of 7 (permalink) Old Apr 4th, 03, 07:14 AM
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Save your 300 bucks and build the mill right,
By spending 300 bucks now and 300 bucks in 6 months again and again, will just add to the frustration.
Park the ride borrow the coin, build it right and enjoy a well built motor,
If can't find the money right now to build the 454, buy a crap 305 drop it in the camaro for the time being.
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post #3 of 7 (permalink) Old Apr 4th, 03, 07:30 AM
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Rob is right. Go buy a cheap used engine and put in the car so you can drive. Then do your Rat when you have the funds to do it correctly. You would not beleive how many customers we have, especially dirt track guys, that will spend $1000 5 times a year to patch something, but will not spend $6000 up front to build something that will run several seasons if properly maintained. If you have the dicipline, have an engine built, or buy a crate motor and put it on a credit card. Pay a couple of hundred bucks a month and end up with a new engine that should last many years.
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post #4 of 7 (permalink) Old Apr 4th, 03, 07:57 AM
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Trust me, avoid the credit card thing unless its just a few hundred or you REALLY need the car for transportation. I'm still paying for my unepected rebuild last summer

I honestly don't see how you could replace a crank and a couple rods for a couple hundred, even on the cheap. Unless you come across another used short block that is in running condition.

Maybe you could swap wrench time on someone else's ride for parts or a little cash. Maybe you could wear a T-shirt that says "will wrench for parts" j/k I know what its like . . .

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post #5 of 7 (permalink) Old Apr 4th, 03, 09:09 AM
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I agree with everyone. Do it right, do it once.

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post #6 of 7 (permalink) Old Apr 5th, 03, 04:45 PM
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I never learned with my first 67 20yrs ago. I kept putting cheap stuff in it and it nickled and dimed me until I finally sold it off. [img]graemlins/clonk.gif[/img]
Today I would have parked it and done it the right way if it took me a year. Oh, and if you are married your wife could always get a second job. haha j/k. Sorry no real good answer for ya man. Good luck
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post #7 of 7 (permalink) Old Apr 6th, 03, 12:56 PM
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Sell one of your other cars.
EVERY time I took a short cut it has cost me double in the long run. Cars are expensive, hot rods are more expensive.
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