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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Apr 14th, 04, 04:19 AM Thread Starter
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I am finally finished putting my 302 engine together and need to know if anyone has ever removed the engine/trans combo with the factory shifter still attached...less the handle of course. What problems will there be if any? Has anyone just pulled the engine and left the trans?

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I am finally finished putting my 302 engine together and need to know if anyone has ever removed the engine/trans combo with the factory shifter still attached...less the handle of course. What problems will there be if any? Has anyone just pulled the engine and left the trans?
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I have removed engine/transmission and just engine. I also have installed the same combo's. On some cars it is a lot easier to remove and replace them as a unit. As far as having the shift mechanism left on, it is just one more thing to get hung up while installing. It also could get some damage on the way in or out so I remove mine first.
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on the side of caution, remove the trans and drop the engine. I tried it and the trans made me nervous, so i did not do it. 10k paint ain't worth the extra 45 minutes to put the trans in. also i think there may be some garage floor issue. Sometimes a little extra work will save you and headaches..work smart...not hard

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The shifter is just held with two bolts. it's a 5 minute install. Put the shifter bracket on, before installing the transmission, as it's a little tougher. That's regardless if you install the engine and tranny together or seperately.
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Thanks for the replies. I usually remove the shifter any way when removing engine and trans together. Just curious if there were any problems if the shifter was left on.

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I just installed my engine the other day. The front end is off the car and I had the transmission connected with the shifter body on it. I had to remove the shift body, there just wasn't enough room.

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I installed my 427 today. Installed the engine, bell housing, and tranny as an assembly. No problems. Car was jacked up about 8" and I had a leveller on the hoist. Very, very tight at the evaporator box, but got everything installed with NO CHIPPED PAINT!!!!
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unreal...did you have the shifter body installed on the tranny?

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I did not install the shifter ahead of time, but I suspect I could have, without the shifter handle. I did install the bracket, though. The tight spotw were the A/C box at the back of the head, and, of course, the steering box, I installed the pass side exhaust, ahead of time. Then I dropped the engine "close" and installed the driver exhaust.
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I'm toying with the idea of leaving the trans in and supporting it then pull the engine that's in my Z now and then reverse the procedure. Good or bad?


You see...my right shoulder really likes to pop out at moments when I really need it to stay put. I do all my own work and that's mainly because being out in the sticks it's hard to find someone to help in a pinch. When it pops out it's very painful and there is "NO ONE" around to drag me out from under the car when it happens and it usually takes 10 to 15 minutes for me to relax enough for it to pop back in. My wife had to drag me out once from under my brothers car and at 215lbs. it's pretty tough for her to drag me across granite rocks if I'm out side, inside the garage may be different. It's very annoying.

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post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old Apr 21st, 04, 11:36 AM
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I pulled my engine and left the tranny in place. However, after I started thinking about it, I decided it would be too hard to align the input shaft by moving the engine into the tranny. Think how easy it is to remove a thread from a needle, but how hard it is to thread the needle.
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