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just getting some ideas on my next engine. i wanted to know what the diffrence(beside weight)there is between a aluminum block as opposed to a cast iron block?i'm going to try my hand at engine building(i do have friends that are mechanics so i wont be going at it blind)and i need to find out which block would fit my application best. the setup i'm trying to get to will be a supercharged 383 with a HP range between 450 to 550. is there a diffrence between the two for this setup or is it fairly simular
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Here's some info off of another board. Not a lot different, although I'm not sure I'd recommend it for a beginner.

http://www.nastyz28.com/ubb/Forum8/HTML/006581.html

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Unless you want to lose the weight, I would stay with an iron block for such a mild build. The aluminum block will move around a bit more than an iron one will, and generally you will find the iron block will make a bit more power due to heat retention. If you really thrown the beans to it then go with an aluminum block. We ran a Rodeck block supercharged 388" with a set of -12 Brodix heads and it made over 1200 hp in a detuned mode! It ran into the 6's at over 200 in a 2200 lb car. You can see it on the home page of my site. For what the alloy block will cost you, that would be money spent better elsewhere IMO for what you are after.

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the weight issue is not a problem. the reason i was asking was because i've seen so much publicity about the ZL1 "aliminum" block i thought there might be an advantge to a aluminum block rather than iron. can either of you suggest a good pro-charger/supercharger for this buildup and what are the price ranges?
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For your HP range I'd suggest the P1SC ProCharger. It will support more if you decide to up the power later. It is a self-contained unit which means no oil feed and drain lines to run. And because it doesn't have the hot engine oil running through it the air temps are lower.

The best pricing and best support I've found on them is from Scott at http://www.sd-concepts.com/ Tell him I sent you. He helped me a lot with the ProCharged 540.


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[img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] cool,i'll check into it this afternoon.
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the weight issue is not a problem. the reason i was asking was because i've seen so much publicity about the ZL1 "aliminum" block i thought there might be an advantge to a aluminum block rather than iron. can either of you suggest a good pro-charger/supercharger for this buildup and what are the price ranges?
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Are you refering to the "new" ZL1 454 c.i.d. Aluminum crate motor from GM, limited to just 200 total production and with a $25K price tag?

Heck if you can afford it, I say go for it.

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just like almost everyone here i can't quite afford a ZL1 [img]graemlins/sad.gif[/img] . the reason i asked was because there is an emphesis on "aluminum" block. i just wondered if the same components were put on an iron block would i get the same performance?
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RickWI has an aluminum 454 SB and generally can be found over at SCCOG. I've read his posts and have found he is a great guy if you want to try to learn more about this from him.

Just say, pdq67 said to look him up!!

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sorry but what is SCCOG? [img]graemlins/clonk.gif[/img]
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