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ok so my old (stock starter) was wired with all hot leads attacked to the big stud on the starter solenoid and with the ground attached to the stud at 3 o'clock from the main stud ....and the car would turn over but now with the same exact setup as before ...i get nothing the car doesnt turn over ...

its a 86 iroc z v8 305 5.0 liter fuel injected ....anyone know of anywhere on the internet where i can find a diagram or two for the wiring?
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I don't believe the 3 o'clock stud on the solenoid should be grounded. It should be for Start Ign voltage from the start command at the 9 o'clock post/stud.

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omg!! im playing with it right now as i type this ...i cant get it right im trying all kinds of ways ...nothing works the only way i can get power like my fan will kick in and the interior lights is if i have all the cables besides the small black one attached to the main stud (big one) and then the small black one on the stud at like 8/9 o clock

but it still wont turn over ...my gauges move and such but i dont get anything else and everything powers up ...and i dont have a cable on the 3oclock stud
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hrm im thinkin maybe i should use direct power from the battery on the stud at 3 o'clock? ...i just dont want to blow the solenoid ...i havent yet and im about to give up on this project and find someone else who can handle this better than i can im getting sick of getting up and going back under and repeating and getting NOWHERE AHHH
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Stop by the bookstore, or auto parts store and get a Haynes manual for $12-$15 or so. It will have wiring diagrams and a lot of other good stuff that you will use down the road. Be careful of doing things trial and error ... Electricity errors can lead to fires... Also, a multimeter is also a good investment for troubleshooting electrical problems ...another $14 - $20 ... BTW, did you do any other work while working on starter. Disconnect anything other than battery??? Did you reconnect everything that you disconnected??? Also, make sure connections are clean...
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um all we disconnected was the battery ...and now my battery doesnt even have enough power to tell me my headlights are on ...and my headlights wont power on either so thats not a good sign ...i think im going to let a mechanic shop deal with this issue within the next few days if i dont find something
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Advance Auto, AutoZone and other will check your battery for free. The starter pretty much needs a full charge to turn the engine over. With the battery connected, your lights, horn, radio , all of that stuff should work independent of the starter connected or not. If these things don't work, your battery is DOA...
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charge your battery, then check your other post in camaro tech. I put some tips in there.

If the engine turned over before, why are you replacing the starter?





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my dad demanded i changed it because it would tkae a second or two to turn over and it was eating the teeth on the flywheel
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All that cranking is draining your battery if i understand you right. That 3 oclock stud is your ignition. If you a have a multimeter try a voltage drop test, set it dc v and take one lead from the positive terminal and connect the other lead to the big stud that the red cable goes to. Disable the ignition coil or pull the injector fuse so the car doesn't start.Either have someone start the car or use a screw driver to connect that stud to the other big stud directly connected to the starter. Read the number, if its over .5v take the cable off and clean w/like sandpaper just to get a clean connection. If that doesn't work, and your not sure that your cable are in the rite place... Big red cable on stud farthers away from starter motor, small wire (usually orange, or green) on the 3 oclock and direct connection from other big stud to the motor. A Haynes manual is a must for a car like that. (i have an 88 Camaro SC)

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thanks for the tips red ...we've tried everything yesturday ...and its officially just going to get colder its only going to be about 35-40 out today

my camaro is most def going to the shop either later this week or next week at least ill get it back running !
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This is gettin kinda crazy with 2 threads running on the same problem....





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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old Nov 10th, 04, 04:42 AM
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When you get right down to it, you only have so many wires and so may places to connect them and the different size terminal ends, studs and connectors are definitely indicators of what should be connected where. Charge the battery, hook everything up and go from there. If necessary, check the link I posted earlier or buy the Haynes manual. Either will give you the necessary info to get things wired. Hopefully, you haven't inadvertantly "fried" something else in the process...good luck ...
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