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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Sep 27th, 04, 12:24 PM Thread Starter
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Just installed a 396 in my '67RS. The new headers I purchased sit to low. About 2 inches of the ground and 3 inches from the base board. When i called Hedman their guy say's to bad! I had Thorley's when I had the small block and they fit great. My setup includes a 396 attached to a super T10 4 speed with hydraulic clutch. Has anyone else done this conversion and found the right fit from any header manufacturer?


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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old Sep 27th, 04, 01:01 PM
 
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Who called Hedman??? [img]smile.gif[/img]

Actually I called Hedman while at work. The guy mike I spoke to was very rude and didn't seem to want to help very much. After explaining our setup and lack of clearence he basically told me to bad and said bye and hung up.

If all else fails get shortys. But let's see what Thorly has to offer.

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post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old Sep 27th, 04, 07:06 PM
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Which model # Hedmans did you use? I just installed the 2" primary/3" collector BB headers and I think they fit pretty well, in general, and their ground clearance is better than the sump on the oil pan.
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They were Hedman ceramic coated 68196.


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post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old Sep 28th, 04, 11:22 AM
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I think Pdq67 installed those headers on his car, maybe he can offer some advice. I would have thought the headers I used (65001) would present a bigger clearance nightmare, since the primary tubes are bigger, but I am actually pretty pleased with the ground clearance. Too weird to hear about problems with a smaller header!
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I just used the Patriot part # H 8012-1 shorty headers on my 69 BB Camaro. You can view them on my site. They fit perfact, [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img] no bends or dimples anywhere.They are on the blur 69 SS car at my site
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I just put a set of BB "NOS", Hedman 68190's on my now P/S car and as far as I'm concerned they fit great!!

I honestly think they woulda fit with no dings at all but I got nervous and dinged the #2 pipe at the rear A-arm shim bolt and rear A-arm rolled flange area before I knew for sure...

The pass. side fit from the top and the drivers side slid in fine with the motor up from the drivers side motor mount till it got caught by the body

Supprised the heck outta me!! But they are just the cheaper, lighter weight, 1.75" four tube long jobbers...

I bought them back in '95 from the old RHS Speed Shop in Memphis, TN before it changed hands..

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I can't help but feel perhaps I received a defective pair as they are to long and after seeing and hearing from others, it appears that way. Perhaps the shorties are a better choice. Not sure if i will lose any performance going with shorties.


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post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old Sep 28th, 04, 04:33 PM
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Mister G, every pair of those exact headers have fit great on the 3 1st gens I've installed them on.
I remember when you asked about them and I recommended that same part #.

That is strange, they fit very close to the floor, and I actually had to dent the passenger side floor on this 69 for clearance.



Yours are the 1 3/4" coated Hedman # 68196 ?

Is the # stamped into the flange ?

I wonder about yours getting boxed wrong or something.

Like I said, they cleared everything with no mods at all, except the floor denting on that one.

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I used the same headers on my 68 with no ground clearence issues. I did have to dimple the floor pan about 1/8" in one spot. The first set I received did not fit correctly and returned them to Summit. They sent out a 2nd set and they were better.

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Where is the number stamped? I will check tonight when I get home.


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The pic is just like the way mine fit!

Just slightly too close to the floorpan but not so tight I can't rotate the flange plate some..

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Here is mine if you haven't seen it.



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Just got home. Looked at the header and on the flange it said 6911604. Seems to me this is for a truck. Keep in mind the box said 68196.


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Oh! Did you say Camaro Mister G? I was sure you said "Cameo"... Sounds like you have a good case for an exchange now Guy...

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