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I've got a '68 with A/C and a 210hp 327. The problem I'm having is I'm having a hard time getting the very last bolt in on the passenger side for installing my Flowtech Afterburner headers. It's the bolt on the backside, toward the firewall, on the #8 cylinder. I'm having a hard time getting the bolt lined up to get in due to clearance. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for any help.

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Yeah that's a tough one with the A/C. Give it a try from underneath the car. Also, be sure the other bolts are loose so you can wiggle the headers around a bit to get the bolt started. Once you get it started it will take forever to get it tightened. I bought some header bolts with 3/8 heads that helped a little but is not necessary. The small tune up type wrenches work the best to get in there. Be patient, you'll get it.

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post #3 of 14 (permalink) Old Aug 13th, 03, 08:46 AM
 
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Todd, I just finished putting my Dymomax headers on last weekend. I can imagine the trouble you are having with that big suitcase in the way. I had problems getting the same bolt in and all I have is the heater box in my way.

Try this. Take your bolt down to the hardware store and get a stainless 3/8 allen head bolt to replace it. You may have to go underneath the engine to reach, but try an allen wrench. You may even have to cut off a portion of the allen wrench to get it in there.
Be sure all the other bolts are in, but only about one or two turns on them all. Then cinch up the one you are having problems with. It will still be only a 1/4 turn at a time though.

I'm changing all my header bolts to stainless allen head bolts pretty soon. I like the way they look. Even went and put the allen heads on the intake manifold.

Sorry I ain't in KC to help. Good luck [img]graemlins/thumbsup.gif[/img]

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I've got a '68 with A/C and a 210hp 327. The problem I'm having is I'm having a hard time getting the very last bolt in on the passenger side for installing my Flowtech Afterburner headers. It's the bolt on the backside, toward the firewall, on the #8 cylinder. I'm having a hard time getting the bolt lined up to get in due to clearance. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for any help.

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I've got a '68 with A/C and a 210hp 327. The problem I'm having is I'm having a hard time getting the very last bolt in on the passenger side for installing my Flowtech Afterburner headers. It's the bolt on the backside, toward the firewall, on the #8 cylinder. I'm having a hard time getting the bolt lined up to get in due to clearance. Does anyone have any suggestions? Thanks for any help.

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I cut the end of an open end wrench off and welded it to an old linkage rod at a 90 degree angle I can reach down there from the top and tighten that header bolt and I have a/c it still takes time and patience but it makes it easier
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I cut the end of an open end wrench off and welded it to an old linkage rod at a 90 degree angle I can reach down there from the top and tighten that header bolt and I have a/c it still takes time and patience but it makes it easier
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Pull the header back out and put a stud into the head on the bolt you are having trouble with. Then just slide the header onto the stud and put a nut on the stud. ARP makes a small 12 point nut that can be tightened with a 7/16" wrench - its actually a distributor stud kit. You could cut a stud shorter too if you have to for clearance.

Good luck - I hate A/C and headers.

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Is it just hard to get to, or is the hole not in the right place?
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Thanks for all your help, everyone.

Jim, it's just hard to get to with the A/C box being so close to it.

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Thanks for all your help, everyone.

Jim, it's just hard to get to with the A/C box being so close to it.
I second the stud method. I too have A/C and headers and the stud is the only way to go. There are header studs available that are the 3/8" threaded on one end and then a small fine thread on the other. Comes with a small pattern nut with 7/16" across the flats.

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I'll probably go that route. Thanks.

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Don't be afraid to cut, shorten, bend, etc., a wrench especially for that position. I had small-hex header bolts on my Nova & I used a cut-off box-end with a little extra bend on a couple of mine.
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post #14 of 14 (permalink) Old Aug 17th, 03, 09:30 AM Thread Starter
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Good news, got everything put in and tightened down. Nice bit of difference of the old manifolds & exhaust. Thanks for everyone's help.

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