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post #1 of 4 (permalink) Old Apr 9th, 02, 09:09 PM Thread Starter
 
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I have a 67 camaro 327/210 it is an original 3 or 4 speed but now has a turbo 350... no matter how i shim the started it sounds horrible, ive replaced both the flywheel and the starer but nothing chaneged. now i noticed that i have a cross bolt pattern starter on the car, which to my understanding is 68 and newer, and i counted the teeth on the flywheel-168. so i went out and bought another started, the correct started, with the straight bolt pattern. i believe this is for the 153 flywheel, so i wont even fit up to the block because it hits on the flywheel. ive been trying to research this and i cant find a straight answer but can anyone tell me which cars got which flywheels?, and would putting the 153 flywheel and starter solve my problem? any help is good help here.. thanks!
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With 153 tooth flexplate, a straight line starter goes with it. A long mounting bolt and short mounting bolt.

With 168 tooth flexplate, a staggered starter goes with it. Both mounting bolts are long.

Sometimes you will get a starter where the mounting has been surfaced. One can shim the outer bolt only to move the pinion into the ring gear. Shim both bolts equally to move the starter away from the ring gear.

You can just buy the starter nose piece from the dealer, and use the new starter guts.

Don't forget to bolt up the end support strap to the starter. This helps supports the other end of the starter and prevents it from cracking when used.

Others may chime in here to add their suggestions.



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post #3 of 4 (permalink) Old Apr 10th, 02, 11:45 AM
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You may want to try this, support the front (side away from the flywheel, opposite the nose). Push up on it the whole time while you tighten the bolts, this does make a difference in most cases. Give it a shot it's free and I bet it will fix the problem. Of course you will have to go back to the starter that will bolt up (the one that sounds bad). The reason it sounded bad (I think) is because the starter gear was not parallel with the flywheel teeth (the above mentioned technique should cure that). Shimming may still be required.

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Something that is equally important is to use GM starter bolts, the ones that have knurling near the bolt heads.

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