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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Dec 23rd, 04, 07:13 PM Thread Starter
 
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I have a 67 that I bought that has a ZZ3 engine in it. I was wondering what type of mods I can do to get more power. I was thinking of just buying a 383 stroker crate to put in, but since the engine is relatively new, I thought maybe I can get some good power out of this block. Any ideas & costs?
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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old Dec 23rd, 04, 07:40 PM
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One thing that really helps is this EPS manifold.

If you don't need anything more than 5500 RPM, it made a very impressive seat-of-the-pants improvement to the bottom end power in one that we did. The Holley 670 Avenger carb works well with it.

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post #3 of 10 (permalink) Old Dec 23rd, 04, 10:08 PM
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fastburn heads, HOT cam, 1.6 roller rockers, and a Performer RPM intake with an 850 Holley on it..

what's that make, you ask?
ZZ430- 430 HP and idles like a stocker. yeah, i know the ZZ430 used different pistons than the ZZ3, but i think it should be very close, power-wise.
i figure less than $2000 to do it, but you could get some of that back by selling your old cam, heads, and intake off.

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you have to make it up on the spot.

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thanks for the suggestions. The fastburn sounds interesting. Is that a kit? I'll see if I can find it. I would definitely like to get some info about it. Idling like a stroker? I use to have a stang with a 347 stroker, so that would nice to get that back. Hopefully it would be more street drivable than my previous stroker.
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norcalcamaro,

Actually, he said it will idle like a "stocker", not a "stroker" [img]smile.gif[/img]

And he is absolutely right. I have that exact setup on a 383. It idles very smoothly and runs like a striped ape when you nail it.

The heads are $1200ish complete. The hot cam kit is $525, includes cam, 1.6 roller rockers(Crane), and valve springs. The FB heads come with the correct springs, so you can save a few buck by just buying cam and rockers. You'll also need a "vortec" style intake manifold. Perf RPM vortec works very well. I would imagine you'll need a timing set as well, and GM sells a very nice single roller design for ~$60.

This is just one of many ways to go - but it is a tried and true combo that works very well on a street type car.

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http://www.sallee-chevrolet.com/frame.html

Under "PAGE SEARCH" enter "fast Burn Heads" and "Hot Cam Kit"


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the parts are available at any GM dealer- but shop around to find one that will deal with you and sell them for less than retail. i think Jeg's carries this stuff too, so it might be worth giving them a call.
here's a list of the parts needed for the swap
fastburn heads- part number 12464298- 2 required
head gasket part number 12557236- 2 required
HOT cam part number 24502586
rocker arms part number 12370839
intake gasket part number 1259094
timing set part number 12371043
you also need Vortec intake bolts and a Vortec style intake, but Edelbrock makes several intakes for those heads from a Performer on up to a full race single plane Victor, and ARP bolts are cheaper than the GM stuff.

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wow, I'm very excited to order & have these parts installed.
thanks everyone
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Before buying parts what is the rest of your combo??
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the beauty of this combo is that if you have crappy gears and a low stall converter and if you have an automatic tranny, it will still run pretty good.
but it does like 3.70 or 4.10 gears and probably at least a 2500-3000 converter.
i drove my Nova for a couple months with the 355 that had the HOT cam kit with vortec heads with 2.56 gears and a slipping automatic tranny, and it ran pretty good. it felt like a stock 350 off the line with a top end charge you wouldn't believe.

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what size engine is your ZZ3...norcalcamaro...just curious. Will that edelbrock eps intake work well with my 350...especially sinse i want alot of low to mid range torque??

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