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post #1 of 30 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 08:23 AM Thread Starter
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Question 67 oil pan removal

I need to drop the pan on my SB 67. The service manual says to simply unbolt the motor mounts, lift the engine from bottom then slide two 4in 2x4 blocks between motor mounts. Did that, but does not appear to provide enough clearance between crossmember. Anyone have a suggestion? I have the bell housing removed.

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post #2 of 30 (permalink) Old Jan 1st, 17, 08:57 AM
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Re: 67 oil pan removal

You have to go higher then. Can you get two pieces of 4x4 landscape ties or double up on the 2X4's screwed together. I would use an engine puller (cherry picker) and a carb plate to pull the motor straight up enough to clear the cross-member and it will also be much more stable when you work on it. Removing the distributor will give more firewall clearance, if necessary, but I would index the motor at #1 TDC first so you can drop the distributor in easy and retain the timing (or close to it). Be careful pushing up the motor using the oil pan. I've seen some deform the base using that method too aggressively.

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Re: 67 oil pan removal

I've not tried it but have seen a post mentioning that after lifting engine, additional pan to crank clearance can be gained by trial and error rotating engine by hand to position crank thrown away from pan.

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Re: 67 oil pan removal

You've gone this far I'd just pull the motor. Much easier to get the pan and gasket back without leaks.
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Re: 67 oil pan removal

Sometimes you can turn the crank so the front throw is up, not down and it will help some.
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I have R&R pans in the car at the track
Turn HB timing marks to 5 o:clock and OE design pan will slip in/out
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Re: 67 oil pan removal

Doing the pan with out pulling the motor is a huge pain because there is never enough room for the pan and your hands and after all that work pulling the pan what about the job of cleaning everything and getting it to seal.
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I've done it without removing the engine. Don't listen to the people who have never done it.

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Re: 67 oil pan removal

Yes, I've also done it many times (not because my repairs leaked) on several cars I own. Maybe it's easier with the engine out, but completely doable in the car.
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I've done it without removing the engine. Don't listen to the people who have never done it.
Yep I've done it. That's why my suggestion is to pull the motor. Tranny and bell are already removed so you'll spend less time to pull it then fuss around under the car removing and reinstalling.
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Re: 67 oil pan removal

Sealing not a problem
I made from 1/16 hunch neoprene sheet, pan rail gaskets and RTV'd the rail gaskets and end gaskets in place onto the block thus they stay.
Ensure pan rail is flat and permanent gasket no leaks.
Use inch-pounds tightening the bolts

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Re: 67 oil pan removal

Are you guys saying you've done it without lifting the engine at all? Just wanted to clarify if it's possible because I may be doing it.

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You still need to lift the engine
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Re: 67 oil pan removal

Yes, you need to lift it a bit. Just make sure the distributor clears the firewall first. If you don't have an engine hoist, Just pull the engine mount bolts and then you can put some foam and a block on the oil pan and lift it with a jack. Make sure the block reaches right across the pan, not just in the center of the pan. I have my own engine hoist, so I always lift them up with that. Keep an eye on the distributor if you're running an HEI, block with 2x4 between the engine mounts and the engine mount risers.
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Re: 67 oil pan removal

I jack it up at the balancer. It can take it, don't treat it as a sissy part.

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