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383 oil pan question on 68

Im finally going to change out my dented leaking stock type oil pan on my 383. I am trying to decide between a milodon 30700 which is a stock type 5 quart pan 8 inch depth or the milodon 30900 7 quart pan 8 1/4 inch depth. My car is lowered 2 inches with hotchkis springs and i have to be careful going over speedbumps or dips in the road. When i measure my current pan it is around 7 7/8 depth with the gasket so if i go with these milodon pans it will bring my oil pan down even lower.

My car is strictly a street car but i do have a heavier foot and like to enjoy the high performance engine (about 475-500 hp) on the open road. For those of you who switched from a stock type pan to a larger capacity pan did you notice a big difference for just street and freeway driving?

I am just wondering if the larger pan with more oil capacity is worth the lower pan ground clearance i would have. Not sure if i would have to worry about scraping my pan on a driveway or ramp. Thanks in advance for the advice.
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Re: 383 oil pan question on 68

I used a road race style pan with side kick outs. low profile, my bellhousing and front frame crossmember will hit before my pan.
It's a moroso,I don't rember the # but it's a dart 1 piece block anyway.
Milodon has some RR pans also. Might give them a call.

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Re: 383 oil pan question on 68

I used this because had issues with a block mounted windge tray, this pan has the tray bolted in place, carried 8 qts oil and allowed ground clearance. I used their oil pump pickup with 3/4" tube.

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I used this because had issues with a block mounted windge tray, this pan has the tray bolted in place, carried 8 qts oil and allowed ground clearance. I used their oil pump pickup with 3/4" tube.

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That looks similar to my Moroso pan.


Not too worried about hitting that pan.

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That is a nice pan. Which oil pump are you running with it? I am thinking i will stay with standard volume. How has the finish on the pan held up?
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That is a nice pan. Which oil pump are you running with it? I am thinking i will stay with standard volume. How has the finish on the pan held up?
I would go with the Mellings 10555 pump but with 3/4 pick up tube and stock relief spring, the black one.

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That looks like a very good fit to me. Im going to jack up the engine to change the pan. Do you think the shape of the pan or the built in tray will make it a little harder to fit it back in with the engine lifted a few inches?
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That looks like a very good fit to me. Im going to jack up the engine to change the pan. Do you think the shape of the pan or the built in tray will make it a little harder to fit it back in with the engine lifted a few inches?
No, it fits as a factory way. Go to the Champ site and look at what else they have that my suit you , You mentioned your current pan was 7 3/4" deep? My pan is 8" with kick outs to side , does not hit headers or starter.
This pan is the later model style, you need to measure if you have enough clearance to stay off the crossmember.

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Yes, my current pan is around 7 3/4, 7 7/8 inches with the gasket. I have a mini starter and it looks like i would have plenty of room for the kickouts around my headers.

How is the oil filter clearance? The champ website says the pan with filter is 8 quart capacity. How many quarts do you run in the pan?

Thanks for all of the information. Very helpful.
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Yes, my current pan is around 7 3/4, 7 7/8 inches with the gasket. I have a mini starter and it looks like i would have plenty of room for the kickouts around my headers.

How is the oil filter clearance? The champ website says the pan with filter is 8 quart capacity. How many quarts do you run in the pan?

Thanks for all of the information. Very helpful.
Glad you asked, I run Dougs D368 headers and the larger 621 bell housing. I have not been able to pass the long oil filter thru any area. Even out front due to headers. I have to use the short AC 454 equivlent filter and pass it up right. If you don't have the big headers or bell housing, you may be able to use the long filter.
Being I change my on filter when all is cool, its not an issue for me. I like to check other things out while up on stands. I run 8 qts.

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I change my own oil also. I wouldnt mind running a shorty oil filter. I was also looking at the champ cp64lt pan. The front part of it looks similar to the sloped stock pan so i wonder if it would be easier to get in from underneath the car? I wonder if this model fits our cars. I may have to call champpans on monday. Looks like they are closed on weekends.

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I change my own oil also. I wouldnt mind running a shorty oil filter. I was also looking at the champ cp64lt pan. The front part of it looks similar to the sloped stock pan so i wonder if it would be easier to get in from underneath the car? I wonder if this model fits our cars. I may have to call champpans on monday. Looks like they are closed on weekends.

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Most all gm oil pans begin with the upper body, the pan is cut and anything can be welded up to the upper , its just depends on what you have. The Champ guys are J&R race guys, they understand what is needed in a pan. I believe they carry the Mellings pumps,.

Don't forget to get the oil pump pick up tube to match your pump. I prefer the large tube with bolt on flange to pump. Long ago, I used to weld the tube onto the pump , but I just hate putting heat on that flat blanchard ground plate.

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Re: 383 oil pan question on 68

I would use the Milodon 30900 or a Moroso (https://www.summitracing.com/parts/s...-540/overview/). I have always used the Moroso pans on my big block Chevy. I also had one 383 that I used that Moroso pan on. No problems.
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Thanks everyone for the help and feedback. After alot of research I ended up buying the kevko 1070 pan with the appropriate pickup. I had a shop install it for me along with a new melling select oil pump and I am really happy with it. Very good quality pan. No more leaks!
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