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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Jan 15th, 17, 05:36 PM Thread Starter
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Edlebrock 600 Question

I have some questions about the carb on my 69. Previous owner installed an Edlebrock 600 and mentioned it idles high and needs adjusted which is true. It doesn't bog, stumble or hesitate at all. I am pretty sure the secondaries are not opening. Going 40 ish or so, I can hit the throttle to the floor and no kick what so ever. Tried it at 50 ish also and no kick. Does this sound like there is something wrong with the secondaries?

Also I kicked it to the floor when going about 5 - 10 mph up the driveway and it kinda shook 2 times back to back real quick. Not sure what that means.

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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Jan 15th, 17, 05:51 PM
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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

I have an Edelbrock 600 on my 67, my car had the 1st issue as well but I noticed that the previous owner hadn't bothered to hook up the kick down cable. The idle issue can be a few different things but the videos on Edelbrock site on the carb are a great resource.

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I have an Edelbrock 600 on my 67, my car had the 1st issue as well but I noticed that the previous owner hadn't bothered to hook up the kick down cable. The idle issue can be a few different things but the videos on Edelbrock site on the carb are a great resource.
Thanks Bob for chiming in. Yep, kick down cable not being hooked up sounds exactly right. I'll check out Edlebrock's site to see if I can get any tips on hooking up the kick down cable, what to look for, etc. Not a carb expert at all so all new to me.

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

I've attached a video of my setup. Please take a look and see if operation and movement of each area seems to be in proper working condition.

Not sure what is in part 3 of the video. Connection at the bottom driverside of carb. I am looking for the kickdown cable. I assume this is not it.

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

Yes that's it the correct Edelbrock connector is part #8046

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Yes that's it the correct Edelbrock connector is part #8046
Good, thanks. I assume it is not adjusted correctly.

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

Been digging around online for a while and I've determined that I cannot tell if the kickdown linkage is adjusted correctly or not. I'll need some help from you guys or the name of a good carb mechanic in the Huntsville, AL area that can tell me if the kickdown linkage is needing adjustment or if something else is causing the secondaries not to open when the throttle is pressed to the floor.

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

More than likely, kickdown is not adjusted.
Pull throttle to WOT and leave in WOT.
Pull forward on cable and see if there is more travel forward of cable.
If there is more length, unlock cable casing at bracket - pull out lock at cable bracket - and pull casing to the rear of car until it stops.
Then push in casing lock.
You should have felt some resistance the last 1/4 inch f travel of the cable.
This resistance is trans action pushing in the kickdown valve inside valve body.

The drvr side of carb is the fast idle cam plate controlled by the choke plate - closed choke, fast idle cam comes into play and gives carb/engine fast idle, aka, 1200-1400 rpm.
Close choke and fast idle cam drops out of use.
you should look down secondary barrels and place throttle in WOT to see if secondary plates open.
If they do not, you may have to bend linkage on pass side of carb for activation.

You might look at Edelbrock's site for instructions.

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More than likely, kickdown is not adjusted.
Pull throttle to WOT and leave in WOT.
Pull forward on cable and see if there is more travel forward of cable.
If there is more length, unlock cable casing at bracket - pull out lock at cable bracket - and pull casing to the rear of car until it stops.
Then push in casing lock.
You should have felt some resistance the last 1/4 inch f travel of the cable.
This resistance is trans action pushing in the kickdown valve inside valve body.

The drvr side of carb is the fast idle cam plate controlled by the choke plate - closed choke, fast idle cam comes into play and gives carb/engine fast idle, aka, 1200-1400 rpm.
Close choke and fast idle cam drops out of use.
you should look down secondary barrels and place throttle in WOT to see if secondary plates open.
If they do not, you may have to bend linkage on pass side of carb for activation.

You might look at Edelbrock's site for instructions.
Yes there is a bit more travel there. The entire bracket is loose but I am not sure if this is normal. As far as going further than that, I am going to have to dig a bit more to understand what I need to do next. I'm a pictures and video guy so I am somewhat stuck for now.

Thanks Everett for chiming in.

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

You're welcome.
My mistake on instructions - third line up should read :
'Open choke plate and fast idle cam drops out.'

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

Anyone care to post a detailed video of how to properly adjust the kickdown rod on a Powerglide? TIA!

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

PG as follows: Has a bellcrank about the bellhousing and linkage.
1. Disconnect trans linkage from bellcrank at firewall by removing clip holding the two connected.
2. Have assistant press and hold throttle to floor and ENSURE carb is at WOT.
If not, fix it.
3. Push back on linkage rod on bottom of carb and pull forward and hold the bellcrank past the resistance felt in the last 1/2 inch or so of travel.
4. Disconnected linkage peg should slide into bellcrank.
If not, turn peg to slip fit. Linkage rod should be threaded and may need a squirt of WD40.
5. Once peg fits into bellcrank with carb at WOT and kickdown bellcrank pulled all the way forward, release all parts and connect linkage rod into bellcrank and reinstall clip.

FYI, there should be a light spring on trans rod, see hole in forward portion of rod at the rear of the slot, to maybe a hole on the thermostat housing, or make a bracket and bolt underneath the top forward valve cover bolt.
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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

A bit more detail! Thanks Everett. I'll give that a shot.

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

So, when this car was a 2 bbl did it come with a kickdown? I assumed it didn't and the prior owner added the kickdown rod and linkage when the new Edlebrock was added. Thanks in advance!

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Re: Edlebrock 600 Question

All configurations of engines and automatic trans have kickdown function
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