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post #1 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 03:40 PM Thread Starter
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Converting from points to electronic

Guys,
I have a couple questions. I have a stock 327 2bbl with stock points/condenser ignition. I would like to convert to the electronic points systems; i.e. Pertronix. Questions - is it worth it? Will I get better performance? And if so, which Pertronix Ignitor do I need? The original II, or III?

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post #2 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 04:02 PM
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

Put in a Crane XR-i and never look back.
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post #3 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 04:14 PM Thread Starter
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Thanks! Can I ask why Crane?
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post #4 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 04:28 PM
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Put Pertronix in my small block Vette years ago and no problem. Runs great great!!! I'd recommend to anyone.
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post #5 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 04:37 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

Thanks. Which Pertronix? the III?
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post #6 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 04:58 PM
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The nice part about Crane is it will operate down to 6V, no relay required. I've had one for years. Works great and has a rev limiter.
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post #7 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 05:21 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

Should I buy the upgraded coil as well?
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post #8 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 05:29 PM
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

I swapped years ago on another car. I used the LS series of Pertronix. LS stands for lobe sensor which basically was a true bolt on and go system. If I recall, the original Pertronix unit recommended pulling the distributor in order to correctly install the system. The LS series of unit doesn't require a distributor pull. It was a bolt on and go system.

I used it on my 68 Firebird, because I was concerned with an HEI distributor having clearance issues with my firewall. My Firebird had a 475HP 428 in it and the Pertronix unit handled everything I threw at it.
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post #9 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 05:54 PM
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

There are many different conversion systems out there all depends on if you want the original dizzy look, wire config etc.
But in general the upgrade is one of the yes you should just as the upgrade to solid state Voltage Regulators is.


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post #10 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 06:00 PM
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

FWIW, A good set of points are cheap, will last many miles, and aren't hard at all to adjust. I don't think there are any major performance benefits to electronic for a 327 2bbl.

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post #11 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 06:34 PM
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I agree with Mike, with a stock 327, your points are fine. If you are going to do an HEI conversion, go with Pertronix. I dont know what the diff is between II and III, but if you do a search on this site, there is plenty of info available.
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post #12 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 08:02 PM
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

6 cylinder, 307, 327, 350, 396, 427 all will benefit from electronic conversion.

The benifit is the same whether it's a base 327 or a high performance motor
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post #13 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

thanks!! I should also mention that I'm adding an Edlebrock 600 Performer Carb and Performer intake as well. Thanks for all the help.
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post #14 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 22nd, 17, 10:35 PM
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

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6 cylinder, 307, 327, 350, 396, 427 all will benefit from electronic conversion.

That is the benifit is the same whether it's a base 327 or a high performance motor
John, Can you specify what those benefits are? I'm not trying to be difficult and you are way more knowledgeable than me on this stuff, but points don't seem like a major problem that needs solving for the average street car.

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post #15 of 37 (permalink) Old Jan 23rd, 17, 05:53 AM
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Re: Converting from points to electronic

Points/Condensor work fine when set up and adjusted correctly. They do need more attention and changed once in a while. Setting gap, dwell and timing is not that hard. Points like spark plugs wear and the gap changes over time. The contacts also get burned from the arcing and will need to be filed and re gapped occasionally

Electronics are for the most part trouble free and will last a long time without attention.

The point I was stating was a high performance engine compared to lower performance makes no difference on the decision to convert.

One does not necessarily provide a "hotter" spark spark over the other depending on the coil used.
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