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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Aug 27th, 18, 07:03 PM Thread Starter
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Engine pad stamp help With pics!

heres the stamp on the eng that's in my 67 RS vert (car was born with a 6 CYL)
trying to figure out what I have here, it was new enough to have a spin on filter
wasn't converted from canister

from what I can gather it was built at the Flint plant
was for a 327/210 HP w/PG
Sept built?
I don't know year, (69?)or much else
maybe if someone else could help decode this
I would be much obliged

Left side of pad (viewed looking down on engine with hood open)
18L 304678 (?) V09I9ME

would a 210HP 327 have those double hump heads?
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Aug 27th, 18, 08:24 PM
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Re: Engine pad stamp help With pics!

Can't help you much but the last year for the 327 was 1968.

And 210 hp 327's did not have double-hump heads. The double-humps had the big valves and were used on the hi-hp engines.

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Re: Engine pad stamp help With pics!

18L = Chevrolet, 1968 model year, Los Angeles, and 304678 is a VIN sequence number.

“ME” is the suffix code for a 1967 or 1968 camaro 327/210 powerglide 2bbl.

V0909 = Flint plant, September 9th

That date would be early-ish production 68 model year, which makes sense given VIN sequence numbers for 68 started at 300001.

If your VIN is:

124678L304678

1=Chevrolet
2=Camaro
4=8cyl (3=6cyl)
67=convertible
8=1968
L=Los Angeles

...then it’s the original engine. You said ‘born with I6’ but if you’re basing that on the cowl tag, sometimes the factory goofed...and the VIN is the one to believe.

ME Is listed in different places as both 1967 and 1968 applications, both 210/2bbl/pg

210hp doesn’t make sense for double-hump heads, but a lot can happen to an engine in 50 years.

Get the casting numbers from the heads...
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"...then it’s the original engine. You said ‘born with I6’ but if you’re basing that on the cowl tag, sometimes the factory goofed...and the VIN is the one to believe."

It's not the factory goofed, although stranger things have happened.The VIN and the Fisher Body code have different meanings...Camaro VIN, Cowl Tag, and other Numbers Decoding


Yes, it's an LF7 (327/210) with powerglide from a 68 Camaro assembled 9/19/67. You can check the block casting date at the top rear transmission flange, behind the distributor. And yes, the heads are from a different engine. Higher compression, bigger valves
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My 69 has a 68 327 w/ double humb heads. But that is because the original 69 block had an issue and the original owner found a 68 block and bolted everything to it. The 18L means that engine was made for a 68 model year car. Unless your partial VIN matches 304678 like Pat mentioned then it's not original to the car. It is still a pretty decent motor. Mine runs great. However, I found a date correct block that I am going to install at some point.

What are your trying to do with the motor? Does it run OK?

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My 69 has a 68 327 w/ double humb heads. But that is because the original 69 block had an issue and the original owner found a 68 block and bolted everything to it. The 18L means that engine was made for a 68 model year car. Unless your partial VIN matches 304678 like Pat mentioned then it's not original to the car. It is still a pretty decent motor. Mine runs great. However, I found a date correct block that I am going to install at some point.

What are your trying to do with the motor? Does it run OK?
Im just doing some preventative maint, oil change, valve cover gaskets etc, it runs great, just want to know what have
heres the VIN and Cowl tag
VIN is : 123677L1600294
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You VIN confirms your car to be an original '67 6 cylinder convertible built in Van Nuys, Ca. (You've got an extra digit in your VIN.) I'll let others decode your trim tag as my "specialty" is the '69s.
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You VIN confirms your car to be an original '67 6 cylinder convertible built in Van Nuys, Ca. (You've got an extra digit in your VIN.) I'll let others decode your trim tag as my "specialty" is the '69s.
That Vin is right off the title,,doggone it,,,I never noticed that

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Can't help you much but the last year for the 327 was 1968..
My 69 had the factory numbers matching 327/210 when I bought it. I removed it out almost 20 years ago though. It also had 327 emblems on the fenders, which I realize could have been added. I thought the 327 was dropped for the 307s later in the model year? The guy I sold it to was admit about getting an original 69 Camaro 327 for his car. I remember him going over it with me for a while to make sure it was a legit 69 327 out of a Camaro for his 69.

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That Vin is right off the title,,doggone it,,,I never noticed that
So your title has a mistake? Or your VIN tag has a mistake? (unlikely)

You can get the title corrected at the DMV with proof.
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Re: Engine pad stamp help With pics!

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My 69 had the factory numbers matching 327/210 when I bought it. I removed it out almost 20 years ago though. It also had 327 emblems on the fenders, which I realize could have been added. I thought the 327 was dropped for the 307s later in the model year? The guy I sold it to was admit about getting an original 69 Camaro 327 for his car. I remember him going over it with me for a while to make sure it was a legit 69 327 out of a Camaro for his 69.

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327s were the base V8 in 69 from start of model year to around Dec 68/Jan 69 when they switched to 307 as the base V8.

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Base non-SS V8 "early" LF7 327ci/210 44,746 units
Base non-SS V8 "late" L14 307ci/200 68,487 units

So yes, 327s are fine in "early" 69 Camaros (I have an original 69 327 too!)

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My 69 01A LOS built car had the mighty L14 in it.
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