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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Nov 5th, 18, 05:42 PM Thread Starter
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Header install

Well thought I'd treat myself to a set of summit racing's full length ceramic coated headers for my 68. Pretty good price, the quality seems good and came with everything to mount them. Removal of the old manifolds, starter, plugs, steering box and bar went really smooth and quick. Mounting the new headers wasn't too bad, the fitament was surprisingly well. I've always heard stories of needing to finess them to fit. Smooth sailing until everything else needed to go back in... found out the hard way I needed to order a new alternator bracket, also found out the hard way I need more hardware for that as well. Installing the spark plugs...what a chore, not to mention getting a boot or two back on behind the pipes. Oh my rag joint tore in the process so I bought a new rubber center and can't figure out how to remove the old joint and hardware. I'm figuring out why everyone has always said what a pain in the butt they are to get on. I started it up tonight without having the rest of the exhaust welded up yet. Sounds mean! Lastly after I set up my welder to burn the pipes in I found out my 220v 3 prong plug body doesn't fit in my new houses 4 prong dryer recepticle. Guess a quick trip to home depot will solve that. Thanks for the vent!
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post #2 of 12 (permalink) Old Nov 5th, 18, 11:34 PM
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Re: Header install

If it was easy everyone would do it. Lol. Sounds like youre having fun.

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post #3 of 12 (permalink) Old Nov 6th, 18, 03:15 AM
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Re: Header install

curious as to why you had to remove the steering box
I never have on my 68
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post #4 of 12 (permalink) Old Nov 6th, 18, 03:37 AM Thread Starter
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Probably didnt have to. however, when I was mocking them up I was having a lot of trouble squeezing them in place so i just removed the 3 mounting bolts and rag joint so I could hang/move the steering box down a couple inches. It made the job a lot easier for me to get the headers in.
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Re: Header install

I have a set on my 67, and they need some "dressing up". They were not coated in any fashion, and now they look burned. I want to use some wrapping, and it will be much easier to remove, wrap, then re-install. It does not appear that I will have too bad an issue, as I don't have "power anything"; just one belt driving the waterpump and alternator.

Anytime I think its going to be a big headache working on the 67 Camaro's engine bay, I walk over to my 2003 Chevy 2500HD Duramax and open its hood. I spend maybe 20 to 30 seconds staring at its engine compartment, then turn to the Camaro and smile at its simplicity!
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Re: Header install

Build or buy one of these.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/AC-WORKS...-306631842-_-N

But since you own a welder, may as well do it right and run a welder circuit for your next project.
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As much as hiccups along the way can be a pain, I love working on my 68. Can't wait to finish it up and see how it sounds and drives. I know what you mean about modern vehicles. I just picked up a '17 Z71 silverado Sunday, a lot more wiring, sensors, less spaces etc... should be fun down the road when I need to wrench on that.
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Build or buy one of these.

https://www.homedepot.com/p/AC-WORKS...-306631842-_-N


But since you own a welder, may as well do it right and run a welder circuit for your next project.
That's a great idea! Might pick one of those up instead of swapping out my plug body. My dryer outlet is about 10 feet from my garage and I have about 50 feet of rated cable.
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post #9 of 12 (permalink) Old Nov 13th, 18, 01:19 PM Thread Starter
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Finished up the header install. Surprisingly my car sounds more quiet at idle, sounds amazing with the pedal to the floor. I feel my car has better throttle response and pulls better than it did. I'm glad I changed out that old worn out and torn rag joint, my cars steering is night and day, tighter wheel and elminated nearly all the play in the wheel. I tightened up the play between my clutch rod and arm and my clutch feels better. I have a few minor issues I need to sort out such as my steering wheel position is 180 degrees out, I had it straight when I installed the rag joint. My clutch return spring goes straight between the header pipes and rattles against them, I need to put some wire insulation around my starter wires and plug wires. Do you guys use a heat shield for your starter with headers? I took mine out and need to modify it to fit. It was a pain in the butt getting these things installed but overall i am very happy with the outcome in performance and sound and happy with tightening up my steering play.
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Re: Header install

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I have a set on my 67, and they need some "dressing up". They were not coated in any fashion, and now they look burned. I want to use some wrapping, and it will be much easier to remove, wrap, then re-install. It does not appear that I will have too bad an issue, as I don't have "power anything"; just one belt driving the waterpump and alternator.
You could send them out to be ceramic coated. When reinstalled you never again have to fool with them.

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post #11 of 12 (permalink) Old Dec 4th, 18, 08:32 AM
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You could send them out to be ceramic coated. When reinstalled you never again have to fool with them.
^^^this, I have always used Jet Hot for coating
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post #12 of 12 (permalink) Old Dec 5th, 18, 03:04 AM
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Re: Header install

check out cerakote!!!
that is what is on my headers
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