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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Nov 29th, 18, 06:09 PM Thread Starter
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So, I am trying to figure out what engine I have, or at least a little more about it. Alternator is mounted right side valve cover. I don't see anything right in front of valve cover that could be anything like a casting number or stamp. Where else should I look. I saw a website where the stamp could be on the back side near the distributor, but damn, there is NO ROOM to see anything.

Engine is painted blue, just hoping it isn't a ford engine, dist is in back though. No, it is not Pontiac blue, neighbor has a 67 Bird and 68 Goat, so I know the color.

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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old Nov 29th, 18, 07:31 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Engine ID

It could be something like this. I have different coil on distributor, but it is HEI similar to the Jegs version. Different valve covers and misc stuff. But, the manifold and carb appear that it could be this one.

https://www.jegs.com/i/JEGS/059/7353K2/10002/-1

Shows 195 hp. So, if this is it, what can be done to improve HP? New block or new heads or both?

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Re: Engine ID

Did you look for a casting number at the drivers side rear (right behind the head)? I don't know anything about crate engines.

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Sounds like a targetmaster engine from the 80's-90's. Dealer over the counter engine. Before they called them crate engines. Close to 300 go, but not quite. They had no front stamping.or could be a block that got milled, and painted blue. If it was milled, should see broach marks.

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Re: Engine ID

That is the problem, hard to see behind engine. Not planning on removing engine to find out what it is, YET.

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post #6 of 20 (permalink) Old Nov 30th, 18, 05:58 AM
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Re: Engine ID

I had an 84 El Camino with a "Blue" engine. I am pretty sure it was factory. I don't know what years had this color used. I also know that some were painted black and I believe they were original to the car.

Pictures always help make a guess without the casting numbers and other data.
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There were blue engines in the late 70's - late 80's. Big and small block. El Camino, Malibu, caprice, and trucks. Not uncomon.

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If it was milled, should see broach marks.
Milling and broaching produce different appearances.

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If it was milled, should see broach marks.
Milling and broaching produce different appearances.
yes Scott that is correct. Milling would leave very little appearance of being surfaced, but you could still see the marks. Sorry for the incomplete information.

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I had an 84 El Camino with a "Blue" engine. I am pretty sure it was factory. I don't know what years had this color used. I also know that some were painted black and I believe they were original to the car.

Pictures always help make a guess without the casting numbers and other data.
Will snap a couple pic tonight and upload. Then, with that feedback, I will upload more

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Re: Engine ID

Based of Garth's suggestion, I stock phone behind drivers valve cover and started snapping shots. This is what I got:
So,
3970010....302.....69....4...Z-28 Camaro
3970010....327.....69....2...Trucks and industrial
3970010....350...69-80...2 or 4
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Up in the air. That is not a Chevrolet blue. Looks like a ford blue. The chevy blue would be between that color and a Pontiac blue. Don't get me wrong, I'm not saying it is a ford engine, just not a factory Chevrolet blue. I would bet on it being a 350 though just in the number of them made.

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I think that particular shade of blue is a special blend used exclusively by Chip Foose....

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I think that particular shade of blue is a special blend used exclusively by Chip Foose....

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I do like the color, and the engine color:


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The casting date is behind the distributor. How 'bout a pic of what ever is in front of the passenger side head ? There should be a pad there for a stamp.

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