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post #1 of 24 (permalink) Old Dec 19th, 18, 05:06 PM Thread Starter
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Starting the DZ build...

Got the local shop which I am close friends with starting to build my DZ302. They balanced my std. 1178 crank to within .1 gram! My question at the moment is about the oil pan and windage tray...what are my options if I don't have original components? GM still has the tray available, but no longer makes the pan, either original or the later style. This is not a top flight build but am trying to duplicate the car out of the box as close as possible without breaking the bank. Thanx guys and gals!!!
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post #2 of 24 (permalink) Old Dec 19th, 18, 06:35 PM
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Re: Starting the DZ build...

There are still some over the counter pans floating around out there. Don't believe any of the dealers will have one. I would not pay more than $250 for one of those.

The assembly line pans are really getting scarce. Last one I sold was dinged and dented pretty good, and I still got $450 for it. Expect to pay north of $600 for a good one.

Look here to tell the difference: https://www.camaros.net/forums/34-re...-oil-pans.html

Some moron (hope it isn't anyone on this site) is selling one of the over the counter pans on ebay with dents and dings, and is asking $1,000. Way over priced.
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These guys show the 5 quart pan being available but I would check.
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post #4 of 24 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 18, 06:33 AM
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I just ordered one to have as a spare. Will let you know if I get a cancellation because it is out of stock.

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Thanx for the leads!!!

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Re: Starting the DZ build...

What cam are you going to run in the 302? Are you going with HP double hump heads or later model aluminum or something else?

I think some of the fun is maintaining original appearance with go-fast goodies added in.

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What cam are you going to run in the 302? Are you going with HP double hump heads or later model aluminum or something else?

I think some of the fun is maintaining original appearance with go-fast goodies added in.
I was going to ask the same thing! I just brought mine home from my builder and was curious myself. Intake too for that matter. I want to run a Victor Jr but am leaning towards the 472.

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I just ordered one to have as a spare. Will let you know if I get a cancellation because it is out of stock.
Order has been updated to: Refund.

Item is out of stock.

Oh well.

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post #9 of 24 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 18, 11:10 AM
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If you have a 472 intake, I would run it, especially if you are running the original heads. No reason to use an aftermarket intake.

Recurve the distributor, use a B28 vac advance cam connected to manifold vac, and it will run fine.

As for the camshaft, I think Crane has a blue print version of the 30 30 cam back on the market, but not sure.

Jerry M uses a Comp Cams copy of the 30 30 that is really close, and he runs in the 10's with it. I have two extras if anyone is interested. Would sell for less than Summit or Jegs. Can get the part number for anyone who is interested. Send me a PM.

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Re: Starting the DZ build...

What about the 140 off-road cam? finally put the 140 cam in my Z... wow.. shoudl have done that 4 cams ago LOL. & https://www.camaros.net/forums/18-en...-camshaft.html.

Mine has a hydraulic roller with roller rockers. It'll spin up to 7k in a moment, at which time I chicken out.
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post #11 of 24 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 18, 01:00 PM Thread Starter
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Using the Comp Cams Nitride cam # 12-000-5 with original heads and intake, going for the original look except for headers. He has had a few of these cars of his own and has built several 302's along the way.

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Order has been updated to: Refund.

Item is out of stock.

Oh well.
Damn, I guess you called that 1 right!

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Al...keep us posted on how this cam works. I used the Crane Blueprint cam. It does what it says...4,000 - 7,000, but at an idle, it really is bad. Car runs way rough. It's a combination of timing and Holley tuning. Have not gotten my arms around that. Did all the JohnZ tuning, but still have issues. I think the cam makes the engine very fussy and particular in the tuning of it all. I will keep after it, but if you find thatthis CompCam is a good option, I may jump. Best of luck and Happy Holidays!

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post #14 of 24 (permalink) Old Dec 20th, 18, 02:00 PM Thread Starter
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Will do Chuck, this cam is supposed to have similar characteristics to the original, wakes up around 3500 or so and revs to 8k plus with no problem which I have no reason to test it that high myself. It will run on the stand when he is done with it. I guess I have to work on my plan of action for the resto on the car.

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ID:	223553 Here is mine. While I have the original heads on the motor that's in the car now
I could have put 2K into them and still not get them to perform like the Trick Flows. I went with a Lunati VooDoo cam. I had a lot of NOS stuff for this that I used such as the pan and timing cover and balancer but my builder advised me not to use the NOS cam I have.
I am glad to see others building DZ's when so many say how un-street friendly they are.
I love running around town in 2nd at 4K
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