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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 17th, 05, 05:34 PM Thread Starter
 
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1969 Z28 CE replacement engine

I hope somebody can help me.

Is a CE replacement engine in a 1969 Z28 the complete engine, short, just block etc and when replaced would it have been the same as a Z28 engine, block, cranks, rods, pistons, cam etc

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 17th, 05, 06:20 PM
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Re: 1969 Z28 CE replacement engine

I was the warranty clerk,, 30 + years ago at a local Chevrolet dealership , The zone rep could approve either, complete long block, short block or fitted block( piston, rings, cam bearings and block. All of these long blocks and short blocks had for limited time, the #346 cam and pink rods, etc. Later in 70's, there was a design change to some of the cams as they came with the LT1 #151 cam. At least they did from the Houston zone GMPD. Long blocks, short block and fitted blocks were all considered as CE service replacment. Any other old warranty clerk or service manager want to add?

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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 17th, 05, 06:43 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: 1969 Z28 CE replacement engine

Thank you, the reason I ask is that we have purchased a 1969 fully documented car that needs restoration. In the paperwork it has paperwork for the ce motor, I will have to reread this closely. Every other # matches. I have the chance to buy a restored corrst dz motor but if the ce is the same I won't bother as it is all a part of the history of this car. car has all sales invoices, pop, and service history. Was purchased by father and passed onto son, then to us.
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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 18th, 05, 11:16 AM
 
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What happened to the ORIGINAL motor?

You won't have a complete ORIGINAL car with a CE motor or one that is "date correct" but doesn't have your VIN number on it regardless unless you deck it bare and restamp it with your VIN, imho........

And I personally don't think restamping is ehtical, but that's just me....

To me, there is only one original motor AND when it bites the dust, all the others are "wannabes"...


AND, imho, since you have paperwork for a CE motor AND you have a CE motor in it, it doesn't matter about it being "date correct" b/c the motor might have been installed three years ago so it sure won't be "date correct" unless it was made at the time of the '69 model year run and is actually an OLD NOS crate motor.

I know, I know, I'm causing trouble so I will shut up...

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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 18th, 05, 01:58 PM Thread Starter
 
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Re: 1969 Z28 CE replacement engine

No idea what happened to the original motor, whatever the Chevy dealer at the time did with them I guess?

The CE motor was put in under warranty, at about 3 months old. We don't get the car or all of the paperwork until early Jan so I will study it then.

What I wanted to know was, when the dealer replaced the engine under warranty, at approx 3 months, would it have been the same engine, 302, same cam, rods, pistons etc

Not starting trouble here, you can have your opinion. I don't think it's ethical to restamp either.
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 18th, 05, 06:26 PM
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Re: 1969 Z28 CE replacement engine

"CE" 5/50 warranty replacement blocks (normally short blocks, but also available as fitted blocks) were ordered by part number off a chart that was published regularly in "Chevrolet Service News" (not the P&A Parts Book), so they'd have the correct innards (crank, rods, pistons, bearings) for the application, and the bolt-on parts were to be transferred from the failed engine. That part number only appeared on the GMPD shipping paperwork and on the crate the block came in.

My '69Z has a "CE" block, installed a little over a year after the car was delivered, and has the correct crank, rods, and pistons in it. One head also had to be replaced at the same time, so it must have gone out in a blaze of glory

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Thanks for taking me at face value here AND good luck with your ride.

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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old Dec 18th, 05, 07:51 PM Thread Starter
 
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Thank you and your welcome mate.
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