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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 16th, 07, 09:10 AM Thread Starter
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steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

I'm swaping in a 4th gen column into my 1st gen. Dosen't look that hard to do really. I will take lots of pictures and post the swap. BUT I need a schamatic of the 4th gen column. So if ya have one please help.

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 16th, 07, 12:15 PM
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

What about the other post you made on this topic in this forum?

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post #3 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 18th, 07, 06:29 AM Thread Starter
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

That other post was for the 1st gen column.
And I found the schematic for the 1st gen.

Now I need the schematic for the 4th gen column to splice in turn signals, wipers, high beam....

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Ah...my bad.

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post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 23rd, 07, 10:05 AM
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

I just ran across this post in a search. In case you haven't found the diagrams yet, here are the schematics for the wiper controls and turn signals/hazard lights. Let me know if there's anything else you're needing. BTW: This is from a 2000 SS if it makes any difference.


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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

Forgot the horn...
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post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 24th, 07, 08:41 PM Thread Starter
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

Thanks for the help.

Seems like the general kept it simple by using the same colored wires for the same function, at least up to 97. But he has thrown me for a loop on a couple of wires.
see post on "1stgen column wiring"

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post #8 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 25th, 07, 07:09 AM
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

Reading your other post, it sounds as if you've solved your problem. Is there something you're still not sure about?

A quick question about putting the column in. Have you found how you'll be modifying the column to use the '67 style rag joint? Is the 4th gen column much longer than the 1st gen unit?
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post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 25th, 07, 09:18 AM Thread Starter
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

everything seems straight forward now, except two wires have me puzzled. On your schematic that you posted of the wiper system, it shows pin E as a green wire and pin F as a gray wire. On my column, in the connector, the wires are reversed. Pin E is gray and Pin F is green. wierd! I know the schematic is correct because I have the GM connector pinout chart and other schematics on the wiper system that read the same.
the fix: Looks like I should see the gray wire change in values (when ohmed) and that would confirm pin F as the wiper speed select. I'll check it later.

And as far as using the rag joint from the 67, I will not be using it. As a matter of fact, I will not be using the steering box or any of the steering components from my 69. In place of the rag joint I will be using a u-joint/vibration dampner from Borgeson(034952).

And yes the 4th gen is a bit longer than the 1st gen. About 5 inches longer due to the longer steering shaft.

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post #10 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 25th, 07, 12:38 PM Thread Starter
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

Wierd, but I guess someone at the GM got things backwards. With the meter connected, it works as it should but the wire colors are reversed.
Thanks for the diagram!! that made finding this out, super simple.



Now how about the ignition switch wiring?

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post #11 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 25th, 07, 02:30 PM Thread Starter
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

Nevermind about the ign. switch wiring.
It was a no brainer!
I'm done.

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post #12 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 29th, 07, 01:54 PM Thread Starter
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

This post is a continuation from the Brakes And Suspension section.

https://www.camaros.net/forums/showth...=121011&page=2

(since we're now on the subject of electrical)

Here is the above schematic of the 4th gen wiper switch/wiper motor



And here is a schematic of a 1998 CK1500 wiper switch/wiper motor.



We are trying to get the switch from the 4th gen to work with the motor from the CK1500. I did some photo editing and tried to mate the two. I deleted the dk green wire coming from the 4th gen switch, and let the 4th gen switch control the washer motor instead of the CK1500 wiper motor logic card. Did this really quick while I'm at work...which reminds me I better get back to work...
Will this work???? Or will this release the logic smoke from the logic card?!




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post #13 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 29th, 07, 03:54 PM
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

One thing you'll have to keep in mind is the resistance within the switch and insure that it matches what the motor is used to. if you have mismatched resistances you could very well have wipers that run too fast or slow in relation to stock. I'll see if I can find the resistances needed and post them.

I think I would personally prefer to pull the switch and motor from the same donor, and do what I could to wire them up to the 4th Gen column. This way the wipers will work exactly as designed in the factory. Replacing the switch with one of a similar style shouldn't be too difficult.

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post #14 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 29th, 07, 04:15 PM Thread Starter
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

I see what you mean. And if you look at the 98 CK diagram, you can see that the resistors are not listed for some strange reason, vs the 4th gen has them all listed.

BTW, any idea what the dk green/pin e and gray/pin f (on the 4th gen) is for?

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post #15 of 22 (permalink) Old Nov 29th, 07, 05:41 PM
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Re: steering column wiring schematic for 4th gen

In case there are any differences, what year of column are you working with?
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