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69 Starter wiring help needed!

I bought an 87 Monte Carlo with a ZZ4 so I could take the drivetrain for the Camaro. I've swapped everything over and am trying to sort out the wiring to get it running. The problem I am currently trying to solve is with the starter. I have searched the site and it seems the original starter had 2 smaller posts. The starter that is on the engine was in the Monte and only has 1 small post. Is there a way to work this with the original wiring or would it be easier to buy an original starter?

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Re: 69 Starter wiring help needed!

The starter you have will work fine. The original starter with 2 small terminals is for a old style point distrubutor. All you need is the wire to go to the S terminal. The R is not used. If you have the 2 wires in your harness just tape up the yellow wire and the purple goes to the S terminal. The original yellow wire went from the positive of the coil to the R terminal on the starter.

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Re: 69 Starter wiring help needed!

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Re: 69 Starter wiring help needed!

Checked the purple wire and it is hot with the key "on". Wouldn't this cause the starter to engage as soon as I hook it up? I only have the wiring harness partially connected. The headlights and marker light connections are all loose. Could a ground not being connected be causing some problems. I have the neg battery terminal grounded the the block and attached to the core support. The positive is connected to the starter and the junction block.

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Re: 69 Starter wiring help needed!

do not cut the yellow wire!
that goes with the purple it provides the current etc to the ignition .
otherwise youll be in start and the dist wont get juice until you release the key to the run position.
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Re: 69 Starter wiring help needed!

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do not cut the yellow wire!
that goes with the purple it provides the current etc to the ignition .
otherwise youll be in start and the dist wont get juice until you release the key to the run position.
look here for diagrams etc.
http://www.camarosource.ca/forums/vi...15ec639b6d0b38
If he had a '67, that'd be true... unlike '67, 68 and up ignition switches power the "RUN" circuit in both START and RUN positions.

(actually was this change made mid-year in '67? I vaguely remember reading something about that)


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Re: 69 Starter wiring help needed!

The purple wire should NOT have power when the key is in "run" only in start. If it does, there is something else wrong and yes, your kar would crank all the time, a bad thing.

And no, you don't need the yellow wire on a 69. You will need to remove and rpelace the factory resister wire to the coil tho.





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(actually was this change made mid-year in '67? I vaguely remember reading something about that)
Don't know it for sure, but think so.

Absolutely lots of 67's don't power the IGN circuit in crank, but I owned one 20 years ago that did... I think? or maybe I kept the yellow wire when I put the hei in it? it was a long long time ago. 'Bout all I remember is hacking of the resister wire and hooking on a big honkin wire...lol.

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