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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 08, 09:14 AM Thread Starter
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Painless Wiring Kit

I figure I have my camaro apart so I might as well replace the wiring before I pull it back together. Ive read on here and other place that the Painless kit is really nice and easy to run but which one should I get or have others bought. Ive seen the kit make for 68-74 GM muscle cars or the 18-Circuit, GM Column, Universal Kit. Both have 18 circuit but with a 150 dollar difference Im kinda stumped. Whick one should I get and why? Does one bolt in easyer?

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post #2 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 10th, 08, 09:26 AM
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Re: Painless Wiring Kit

Looking at the descriptions, it looks like the GM kit might have more of the wires with correct terminals for GM already installed.

Do a search here for "Painless". Some like them, some don't. For just a little more than the Painless universal kit and less than the 68-74 GM kit, you can get a much nicer Classic Update kit from American Autowire. IMO, much better system and top of the line tech support. The price shown on the link is retail; you can get it for around $450 shipped from many vendors, including Musclerodz (one of our site sponsors).


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I second the classic update harness. I just installed one myself with no cussing at all! I usually have to belt out a few on every project, but not this one. The instuctions and tech support are great. The nice thing about AAW's kit, is that you don't reuse any old sockets/connections. With the painless kit, you'll have to splice a lot of your old stuff in ie: tail light sockets. Just my 2 cents.

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No experience with Painless but I used AAW and it was simple, straight forward and everything appeared to be just like the factory wiring I took out (rear wiring harness on a 67 RS).

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AAW is the way to go in the future.Tech support at painless are all foreigners sorry to say and no help for me when I needed it.Not happy at all.

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post #6 of 9 (permalink) Old Jan 11th, 08, 05:31 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Painless Wiring Kit

WOW! I'll have to look into them. Didnt relize all the problems you can have with the painless kit. Thanks for the advise.

Edit: Where did you see if for $450 shipped? The best I found was 475 shipped and it was on ebay.

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Silver - So many choices, I hope I don't overload you...

First of all, the AAW Classic Update Kit for 69 Camaro part number is 500686.

Frank and Lisa (TC username ProdigyCustoms) have an ongoing AAW group purchase over at www.GPSuperstore.com . Free to join, lots of different manufacturers with strong group purchasing power, and Frank and Lisa are great to deal with an very responsive via email or phone. The group buy looks like 10% off AAW, so that would put 500686 at somewhere near $475 (which is the best you found).

Mike Redpath at MuscleRodz in OK is also a good guy to deal with MuscleRodz.com. Their website shows the 500686 at $499. Contact Information
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Here is a current one on ebay at $449 plus free shipping:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/69-CH...spagenameZWDVW

$459 and $9.95 shipping here:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/WIRIN...2em118Q2el1247


So, if you wanted to support a TC sponsor like GPSuperstore or MuscleRodz, it is worth contacting them and seeing if they can match the lowest price (including shipping).

Finally, the best thing is that, no matter who you buy it from, AAW will be there for support. Donny Bock is a top notch, old school GM muscle guy kind of tech (even if he does like bigger cars like B-bodies ). http://www.americanautowire.com/Contact.html

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Re: Painless Wiring Kit

I helped a friend install a Painless kit on his 69 Firebird, and I bought a AAW for my 69 Camaro. No comparison, the AWW Classis Update kit was way better than Painless. Came with a lot more parts (including light sockets). I don't believe I had to reuse any old parts with the AAW kit and we were cutting and splicing old junk onto the Painless kit. I think the AAW was actually a little cheaper (got mine from ebay), but after using both, I would gladly pay more to get the AAW kit. Just my opinion...
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Also, If you have any questions what so ever or how stupid for me anyway they were. AAW was very helpfull and very patient. Also if you go with a DSE wiper motor they can hook you up with the wires to go thru the fuse block to stop from drilling another hole in the fire wall. AAW all the way not to down Painless but the need to up there help requirements.

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