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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Feb 18th, 08, 05:43 AM Thread Starter
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Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

Hi Guys,

I'm starting to trouble shoot any of my electrical issues prior to putting this '68 on the road for the first time ...

All of my lights work fine except that my high beams are working strangely ...

I used the complete American Auto Wire Classic Update kit along with the supplied high beam floor switch and a new dash mount light knob/switch ...

Here's what is happening:

Whenever I press the high beam switch, one of the headlights will brighten and the other stays dim, and then when I press the switch again, the light that was bright now goes dim and the light that was previously dim now becomes bright ...

They are just oscillating back and forth whenever the high beam floor switch is pressed ...

My wiring appears correct but I must be missing something ...

Any ideas?

Thanks!

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

Tim, this, plus your other post regarding turn signals, flashers, and horn, just might indicate you have a grounding problem up front.

I have seen (in fact I own) a car that when reassembled after paint, the entire rad support did not ground, playing havoc with all the things you're having trouble with, as well as the charging system.





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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

Thanks Jim ...

I'll go back over my up front grounds today after work and see if I can find something ...

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

Try measuring voltage from the alternator case or neg battery terminal to the regulator base or horn relay case. Should be ZERO. Doesn't matter if it is running or not.





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post #5 of 14 (permalink) Old Feb 18th, 08, 08:33 AM
 
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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

I just installed the same kit this weekend.

It sounds to me like you have the connectors assembled incorrectly. One of the headlights hi beam/low beam is wired backwards.
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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

Thanks Scott ... I'll give them another check also tonight

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

I think Scott may have the best idea here. Most likely one of the headlamp plugs is wired backwards. Just beware that bad grounds can cause some pretty freaky symptoms. When a ground is bad, sometimes circuits can back-feed one another. For example, make sure that the dim light is really on the low-beam filament and not pulling ground through another circuit on the high-beam filament. The added resistance of a paralell circuit can make a high beam filiment glow more dimly that it normally would.

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

Thanks again ... yeap, more than likely I've got some wiring backwards on one of the headlights ... After I get that straight, then I've got my trusty test light ready to trace down my issues with my steering column units (horn, turn signals, flashers) ...

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

Update ... Got the low/high beams straight ... I had one crossed ...

This also fixed the hazard lights ...

But I still can't get the horn and turn signals straight ...

On these cars, Is the horn always supposed to be able to work, even without the ignition turned on or in the acces. position?

I assume the ignition has to be in the acces. or on position for the turn signals to work ...

This AAW system comes with an newer style horn relay ... maybe the wiring that enters the connector that connects to the relay is not correct ... 68Protourng ... do you remember the orientation of the wires entering the connectors that plugs into the newer style horn relay?

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

The horn should work with the ignition on or off.

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

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... do you remember the orientation of the wires entering the connectors that plugs into the newer style horn relay?

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Check out the what it is where it is sticky at the top of the electrical forum. Jim has posted a close up of the horn relay and it's wires. Beware that there is an extra wire that may or may not be used for the key reminder. I think that was the pink wire.

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Re: Installed AAW Classic Update kit ... High Beams acting strange ...

How long did it take to install the AAW kits, Tim and 69Pro?

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How long did it take to install the AAW kits, Tim and 69Pro?

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Not very long at all ... It is very well done ...

Just make sure you have a very good crimping/stripping tool and a soldering iron w/ solder ...

I think that I did my whole car in a couple weekends ... I went slow and took my time but still managed to get a couple wires backwards

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How long did it take to install the AAW kits, Tim and 69Pro?

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No too long, really. I'm not quite done since I haven't gotten into the dash yet, but that's all I really have left. I'd guess the entire project to be 8 to 12 hours, depending on how much time is taken dressing the harnesses, soldering v. crimping, etc.

The kit is extremely well thought out and everything you need is included. I would definitely use the AAW kit again.

I got my kit from GP Superstore. Check Frank's prices before you buy.
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