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What is this wire for?

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As you all probably know by now, I am not very good with electrical. But I'm learning and thanks to everyone here. Yes, I have all the books and wiring diagrams (might as well be a an old treasure map) but I still can't figure out what I am dealing with here. Looks like I got the gas guage issue sorted out but now I am on to the rest. What are the orange wires witht he black stripes for? The only reference I could find was power windows but that was not an option on my car. Looks like a red wire splits into 2 orange wires with a black stripe and one of those is conneted to the red wire going back into the dash. It also looks like the other orange wire was connected to something as well at one time.
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Note: As far as I know this should all be original factory wiring... all is, as it was.

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Re: What is this wire for?

Looks like power feed....When do you have power on it?
All the time - on accessory - or on run?

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Re: What is this wire for?

I will have to check? Any of you wiring diagram guru's know what these are used to power?

One more thing... the 2 orange wires with the black stripe come from an original red wire and have nothing to do with the blue/brown clipped wires. Looks like it was just run over them to keep them from getting to close to your feet.

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Re: What is this wire for?

Does the car have a power top? It looks like you have the switch for one on the bottom edge of the instrument panel. The power top circuit doesn't show up on the normal factory wiring diagram.

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Does the car have a power top? It looks like you have the switch for one on the bottom edge of the instrument panel. The power top circuit doesn't show up on the normal factory wiring diagram.
Yes, I do have a power top. The power top still works... and this is disconnected. I will try to disconnect the other one... you might be on to something. Time to trace the wire... bah...

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Re: What is this wire for?

Bump... Where should this be connected to?

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Do these wires have power all the time? On a vert, these could be for the courtesy lights on each side of the dash. I see the bracket for the one on the drivers side in your pic with no light installed. Here is some info on the circuit. Hope it helps.

Courtesy and Cigarette Lighter Circuits
Voltage is applied at all times through the
CLK, LTR, CTSY FUSE to the
CIGARETTE LIGHTER and COURTESY
LIGHTS. Opening either door or turning
the LIGHT SWITCH completely counter-
clockwise grounds the COURTESY
LIGHTS, turning them on. Opening the
glove compartment door grounds the
combination light socket/switch, turning
it on. Pushing in the CIGARETTE
LIGHTER sends current to the heater
element. When the element reaches
operating temperature, a bi-metallic tab
bends enough for the spring to partially
eject the LIGHTER, stopping current
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Re: What is this wire for?

Those are not the courtesy light wires. Those are just orange, no black stripe, and much smaller. The light socket is a part of the vert courtesy light harness, it doesn't unplug.

That said, I don't know what the wires in the picture are.
The "wrap" on the orange/black wires doesn't look "factory right" though. Perhaps it's something that was added?
They could be for the power top though?
As in the red wires comes thru the firewall from the circuit breaker, and goes to the switch, then comes back down in case there was another accessory that needed power (the loose orange/black wire) and the black / blue wires are up and down, heading back to the top motor?
I am totally guessing. Trace the wires.





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is there a light in the trunk?
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Re: What is this wire for?

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Bump... Where should this be connected to?
nothing - it's for power windows..

The orange wire with black stripes comes from the firewall relay, and is always 12v30a hot.
(look on the firewall next to your brake master cyl)

The big red wire goes to the convertible power top switch.
The second orange w/black wire is for electric windows.

If you have electric windows, you should have a relay that is switched through the aux/ign switch.
If you don't have power windows, it just hangs loose. (I added power windows without the 2nd relay)

EDIT: My car did not originally have power windows, and the second pigtail was just folded back and taped up.
I found this picture from Ricks, and you can see the second pigtail is there, but already taped up for you.

http://www.rickscamaros.com/product....3&dept_id=3133

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Re: What is this wire for?

Thank you! Yes that is what I was thinking. I do not have power windows so I will nicely tape this back up.

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