Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS - Team Camaro Tech
Electrical & Wiring Troubleshooting electrical.

Reply
 
LinkBack Thread Tools Display Modes
post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 04:19 AM Thread Starter
Senior Tech
Mike
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rockford Il
Posts: 149
Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

To be brief, I had the car at a shop to get a new engine rebuilt along with suspension etc. They took my money, most of my stock original parts and almost my car. I just put in a SBC 383 with a MSD dist. and 6al box.

Its been 8 years since the car has ran, and I dont remember what wires go to or what I even need to use anymore. The car was a A/C car, and I removed it. Im sure some of the wiring wont be used.

I need to know what wires go to what. I took pictures of the factory wiring that I dont know what they are used for. Hopefully you can help me out.

These wires are near the stock washer fluid tank, on the driver side. I believe 2 of them go to the voltage regulator?


This wire goes into the firewall.


These three come out of a harness that goes the length of the firwall and come out above the washer fluid pump.



Passenger side of car, starting closest to fire wall toward front of car. The harness these wires come out of, comes out of the firewall above the passenger side valve cover.
Three connectors


1 wire connector.


2 connectors


Last connector, wire is green and very long, it runs toward the front of the car.


1 connector and 1 eyelet these run out of a harness that comes out of the passenger side wheel well.


This wire Behind the radiator support.
CRAZY 350 is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 05:19 AM
Senior Tech
John
 
parkbrau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 7,813
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

Wow! I ll try thebest I can. The first pic is what you think.Thats voltage regulator wires.
The second...the one that goes into firewall. I think that goes to the idle solenoid on the old Rochester carb. I dont recall the connector being a round type, i thought they were stake on connectors
Third one went to your old stock coil. Dont use that for your MSD, you need a full 12 volts.
fourth, those went to the various switches on the AC box, such as fan relay and ambient temp switch
fifth goes to the ambient temp switch
sixth goesto fan
7th..dunno
8th. is that a double pic from the 2nd pic?
9th. Let me go out to the garage, and see.

This is fun. You need a schematic/assembly manual.

And bummer about the car shop.
parkbrau is offline  
post #3 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 05:21 AM
Senior Tech
John
 
parkbrau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 7,813
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

You might want to think about getting a new wire harness. One w/out A/C and with MSD.
parkbrau is offline  
 
post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 05:24 AM Thread Starter
Senior Tech
Mike
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rockford Il
Posts: 149
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

The second to last pic isnt a double. Those wires run out of a harness thast comes out of the passenger side fender well.

If the Third pic wires went to my coil what are the wires in the 5th pic in the foreground? I thought those went to the coil?

Thanks for the helping, I hate wiring but dont have the money to pay someone. I have to try.
CRAZY 350 is offline  
post #5 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 05:27 AM Thread Starter
Senior Tech
Mike
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rockford Il
Posts: 149
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

Quote:
Originally Posted by parkbrau View Post
You might want to think about getting a new wire harness. One w/out A/C and with MSD.

I have thought of that, but Im so short on money I wouldnt be able to do so for months. I wanted to try and get this harnes to work just to have it run.

I was on AAW earlier looking. They have 4 or 5 different harnesses for the SBC version. I would have no clue what harness or harnesses to buy.
CRAZY 350 is offline  
post #6 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 05:57 AM
Senior Tech
John
 
parkbrau's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2004
Location: Stuttgart
Posts: 7,813
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

The fifth in the foreground, down by the engine?? looks like it goes to the starter. the two wires, brown and green that goes into the connector.... That will connect to the ambient temp switch on the ac box you dont have.

You really need a schematic. I dont have one electonically here at home, someone should be able to help.

I would work one problem area at a time. Ask for help wiring the voltage regulator. Once complete go to the starter wiring. After that go to the MSDS. All the A/C stuff can be taped up and not worried about.
parkbrau is offline  
post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 06:05 AM Thread Starter
Senior Tech
Mike
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rockford Il
Posts: 149
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

Great, Thanks.
CRAZY 350 is offline  
post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 06:44 AM
Team Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LaGrange,Il
Posts: 1,026
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

Mike.
Go to the electrical basics sticky at the top of this section and there is a section for wiring diagrams.
#1 might also be horn relay
#2 looks like either high speed for the A/C blower or power for power windows or convertible top? it should hook up to a circuit breaker on the firewall.

#4 is the air conditioning harness.

TTFN
Mat

SSCARGO
Mat Klemp is offline  
post #9 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 07:33 AM Thread Starter
Senior Tech
Mike
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rockford Il
Posts: 149
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

Where would this cuircult breaker be on the firwall? The car does have power windows, it is a hard top. Im trying to figure out what else the shop might have taken off the car as to what I need.
CRAZY 350 is offline  
post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 08:44 AM
Gold Lifetime Member
Jim
 
Join Date: Dec 1999
Location: Yorkville, Illinois USA
Posts: 22,121
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

The second to the last pic is the alternator wires.

The entire harness that comes out of the firewall toward the pass side of the car is for the A/C.





To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.



To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
New website for my vert is coming together. Do ya like the slide show on the home page?
JimM is offline  
post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 08:50 AM Thread Starter
Senior Tech
Mike
 
Join Date: Feb 2009
Location: Rockford Il
Posts: 149
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

Thanks. even that long green wire, its about 4 feet long. Its in pic 7, you can see it again running toward the radiator in pic 8.

What about the wire in the last pic?
CRAZY 350 is offline  
post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 09:17 AM
Team Member
 
Join Date: Jun 2000
Location: LaGrange,Il
Posts: 1,026
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

The circuit breaker is slightly above and to the right of the master cyl.



it gets power from a large red wire that goes along the inner fender to the horn relay.

The long green wire is for the A/C compressor
the last one? maybe to the junction block or the horn relay or voltage regulator. the fusible link has me confused.

TTFN
Mat

SSCARGO
Mat Klemp is offline  
post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 10:00 AM
Gold Lifetime Member
Jeff
 
yellow69RS's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jul 2007
Location: Aurora, IL
Posts: 5,149
Send a message via Yahoo to yellow69RS
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

If you want some live help shoot me a PM. I'm unemployed and available most any time after Tuesday of next week. I could shoot up to Rockford and lend a hand. I might be able to find a wiring diagram, if not I've got years of automotive electrical experience. I believe MattK has the most accurate info above.

Jeff
yellow69RS is offline  
post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 09, 10:24 AM
Super Moderator
Bess-68's rule
 
Everett#2390's Avatar
 
Join Date: Sep 2000
Location: Va Beach VA
Posts: 31,876
Garage
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

Quote:
Originally Posted by CRAZY 350 View Post
These wires are near the stock washer fluid tank, on the driver side. I believe 2 of them go to the voltage regulator?
Two U-shaped go to the horn relay buss bar.
Black ground?


This wire goes into the firewall.
Power window power source to ckt breaker as shown earlier.




Passenger side of car, starting closest to fire wall toward front of car. The harness these wires come out of, comes out of the firewall above the passenger side valve cover.
Three connectors are for resistor block for fan, and fan power.


1 wire connector.
Don't know.



Last connector, wire is green and very long, it runs toward the front of the car.
Idle up solenoid for when compressor comes on.


1 connector and 1 eyelet these run out of a harness that comes out of the passenger side wheel well.
Alternator hookup, red to BAT, connector plugs into external reg alternator.


See my answers inside the quote. My guesses.

Give a man a rescued dog for the health of both their souls. May 2017 ROTM Winner - Thank you!
'
To view links or images in signatures your post count must be 10 or greater. You currently have 0 posts.
CUBS - 2016 World Series Champions - Thank you, Joe Madden Ö enjoy your next chapter.
Everett#2390 is offline  
post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 15th, 09, 08:18 AM
Retired
Jim
 
click's Avatar
 
Join Date: Jun 2001
Location: Central Minnesota
Posts: 15,986
Re: Stock wiring Gurus inside. Help with 69 SS

If you dont have the AIM Assembly Instruction Manual for your 69, better get it. It has wiring diagrams with color of wires noted and where they go. Its one of the best books you can own.

Click..is Jim..former owner of a 69RS-LM1 350/255 - 700r
"There will come a time when you believe everything is finished,
That will be the beginning." Louis L'Amour
click is offline  
Sponsored Links
Advertisement
 
Reply

Quick Reply
Message:
Options

Register Now



In order to be able to post messages on the Team Camaro Tech forums, you must first register.
Please enter your desired user name, your email address and other required details in the form below.

User Name:
Password
Please enter a password for your user account. Note that passwords are case-sensitive.

Password:


Confirm Password:
Email Address
Please enter a valid email address.
NOTE we receive a lot of registrations with bad email addresses. IF you do not receive your confirmation email you will not be able to post. contact support and we will try and help.
Be sure you enter a valid email address and check your spam folder as well.



Email Address:
OR

Log-in










Thread Tools
Show Printable Version Show Printable Version
Email this Page Email this Page
Display Modes
Linear Mode Linear Mode



Posting Rules  
You may post new threads
You may post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are On
Pingbacks are On
Refbacks are On

 
For the best viewing experience please update your browser to Google Chrome