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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Sep 19th, 09, 09:19 AM Thread Starter
 
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Hello
Just bought my first 67 Camaro coupe very Nice car , Just a couple issues with it
1. the back up lights will not go on
2. the instrument lights will not work
3. the parking brake indicator light will not go on
4. the heater seems to be blowing hot air even when it is on the off position

it has a 2 speed trans

Thanks in advace for any help
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Re: back up lights

Have you checked for voltage at the back up lights and the brake light? If there were voltage then it would be ground or bulbs. If there is no voltage you will need to look for a switch. The brake switch is easy to find on the e-brake pedal. The back up light switch is on top of the steering column or in the console.
Have you turned the headlight switch knob? The dash lights can be turned down or off by the headlight switch. The dash lights my just be turned off.
Are you saying the blower is still running in the off position or are you having heat even when the blower is not running? Unless you have AC you will never get cool air from the heater. On non-AC cars the heater core always has hot water running through it so if there is any air going through the heater box it will be hot.
If your transmission is a PowerGlide, that is all they have is two speeds.
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Re: back up lights

Console shift - switch on shift lever in console.
Column shift - switch on top of column as Roger suggests.
Parking brake has a switch at the top of it right above the kick panel - tan wire attaches to switch as switch body provides the ground to complete the circuit to light the light.
Heater always flows air due to design even with blower off. You might make sure all the cables do work and the doors they control do go to the end of their stroke, especially the air temp door. The cable casing is clamped and the clamp can be loosen and cable pushed forward to complete its stroke, tighten the clamp.

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One more thing to add on the instrument lighting. If the cluster isn't grounded, it won't work either. That was my original problem. Well, that coupled with the previous owner used peanut bulb sockets from autozone and those were just slightly too small compared to the ones from ricks or firewheel classics. Check for voltage though.
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Re: back up lights

Thanks for the information I will try all of your suggestions and get back to you
Did the 2 speed with the console shifter have a wire that had to connect the the transmition it self ,as well or would it just be the wire harness in the console ?
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the car has the stock air in it but needs to be refilled can it be purchased as a do it your self kit?
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Re: back up lights

i'm also thinking of installing a new wire harness to avoide any further issues with it , and was wondering how difficult it would be ? or is it worth doing , seems from reading the electrical issues with the model they have a lot of grounding problems
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Re: back up lights

If you have console shifter, the neutral safety switch and back-up switch are part of the shifter in the console, nothing connects to the trans. Remove the letter plate, then remove the plate covering the shifter and you will see the switch on the right hand side of the shifter - purple wires for neutral start, they go to the starter solenoid, purple/white from the ignition sw, purple to the solenoid; back-up switch has green/white for power from ignition switch and fuse panel, green to rear lights via body harness on drvr kick panel and running down gutter underneath carpet by the door, remove sill plate.

Cars this age have ground problems due to rust forming at connection to body. Clean with wire brush, both body and terminal, use a star washer, and cover with dielectric grease to protect connection.

IMO, if you can get the harness/circuits to work using the OE harness, don't fix it, patience is the key.

If you still have R-12 system, you should rely on a HVAC tech to evacuate, change receiver dryer, lube the sytem as in add oil, do a triple vac, and check for leaks, then charge, $80/lb for R12. If you have to change compressor, then changeover to R134A would be the next step. Look into Hot Shot, R12 direct replacement. JMT's, your's is dependent upon staying OE design or not.

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Thanks Everett
awsome Thanks for the help i will try this tomorrow Again thanks for your help !
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I installed all harnesses in my 67. It was a bit of a frankenstein move since I am running a 68 horseshoe in the car and wanted guages. The harness was simple to install but I was lucky enough to have the firewall out at the time
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Re: back up lights

its fixed now turned out to be the neutral safety switch , i took it apart and one of the contacts was bent just straightened it , now it works great
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Thanks for the help , Paul
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