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post #1 of 14 (permalink) Old Oct 5th, 09, 06:29 PM Thread Starter
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Planning a trip to the pickandpull junkyard soon to grab an electric fan. What would be good vehicles/motors to grab a high amp/easy to wire alternator from?? Mine mounts on the passenger side now.. Would be best if i can keep the pulley on my current alternator. My engine is a 70s 454.
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I would think most any CS130 alt would do the trick.
Strap wrench and socket to change pulleys.

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Are they marked CS130 on them anywhere? How do i know im getting the right one when looking at vehicles?
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Try here for more info:
http://www.novaresource.org/alternator.htm

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Cool. Found one for $25 tested and gauranteed!
Also got a lincoln mk viii fan for another $25..
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Re: junkyard alternator

The alt i got cross referenced to Delco 1101229 in the computer at the yard and its from a 89 caprice 5.0L But they had it marked as 85amp in the computer. It has the 4 wire plug like a cs130 should.. Did they make a 85amp version? how would i tell? Hopefully its just the wrong info in the computer. Curiously it came with a v belt pulley on it, i would have figured a 89 caprice was serp belt...

Edit: Just went out and cleaned off the writing on it. It does say 1101229 but it also says 85A.. Every site i find online says 1101229 is a 100-105A.. Whats going on here?!

http://www.knappsautoelectric.com/de...atorsCS130.htm

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Yes, GM made an 85 AMP model. I would say if it is OE stamped 85A, then it would be one.
Once installed, you're not going to know the difference between 85A & 105A.

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... Once installed, you're not going to know the difference between 85A & 105A.
Unless you hook up that Mk VIII fan

I usually go looking for one of the small/mid sized 199x's (mid/late) GM vehicles, specially the Oldsmobiles and Buicks.
They usually have quite a few power accessories (and AC) and the 100+ Amp alternators, even on the small 2.5L engines in many here in Calif.
Since they are "wierd" models, they commonly are not as picked-over as the other chevy's, pont. and cad's in the yards.
Be sure to double check and make sure you don't get one of the 78A units used on the "stripped" models
Scored a couple of 105's just a couple weeks ago.

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Exactly. I plan on using that fan as my only cooling so need the extra juice of the alt. I just didnt realize that there were different flavors of cs130's.. Thanks
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I went back and got one marked 105A and even better is it came with a pigtail for the wiring. Best of all it had remanufactur stickers on it dated 2005 and looks like new! Same price, cant complain about that!
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Jeff, in the electrical stickies I posted an article about wiring up a CS alternator. It talks about remote sensing and connecting accessory loads like your fan. Take a look and see if you find anything useful there.

FWIW: You can buy a brand new CS style regulator plug at most autoparts stores in the help section for about $8 if I recall.

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Thanks Dave. I printed it out along with the article Wes wrote. I notice you put Fusible links on the charge wire and on the horn relay to junction block wire. What size would you use for those? Im guessing you want it to be up over the max capacity of the alternator? I need to now match all the wires in your drawing to the original camaro harness, Wes covers some of that.
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Fusible links are generally 4 wire sizes smaller then the wire you are protecting and are a good way to protect high sustained loads. Check out MADelectrical.com for more info.

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Check the donor car milage...if up around 70.000 + Dismantle replace bearings and brushes....other wise you will have to to it later anyway.

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