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Can we ditch the horn relay

and how? lol

we don't use ours and don't have the horn itself hooked up, it's just unnecessary and the thing and wires laying there look ugly to begin with...

i searched but only read a few threads talking about what it was and people posting pictures so i thought i could still ask...?

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and how? lol

we don't use ours and don't have the horn itself hooked up, it's just unnecessary and the thing and wires laying there look ugly to begin with...

i searched but only read a few threads talking about what it was and people posting pictures so i thought i could still ask...?

thanks and have a good weekend!!
not if you have factory a/c or power top. they both pull power from it
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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

How are you going to tap into power for your underhood accessories (PW, AC, RS lights, PT, Alternator feed) on the driver's side of the car?

I suppose you could just run wires off a clamped (not molded) battery terminal like the boom-chik-a-boom cars do. Or the main power junction block near the battery.
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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

It would be a simple matter of cutting off the terminals of the two 12 GA red wires and splicing them together. The remaining three wires are for the horn and key buzzer functions. Cut the terminals off them, make sure the conductors are inside the ends of the insulation and wrap everything in harness tape for a cleaner, factory look.

Now, if you do have extra power feed wires for any accessories, that will make it a little harder to splice the 12 volt wires together, but it's doable.
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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

Thank you guys for the responses. We don't have a horn, AC is gone, and no power top. Our key buzzer doesn't work...so it's basically just sitting there looking ugly and wasting space. lol

I wasn't sure what the wires there were for what, so I had to ask before I did anything. Is it really just as simple as cutting and splicing together the 2 red wires? I sure hope so.

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Re: can we ditch the horn relay



those are the two pictures i just took...i see one red wire going to the horn relay, and a red wire in the 2nd picture...that then turns into a black wire i guess right before the relay...are those the 2 red wires that should be spliced together?

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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

Whatever wires are on the two slotted screws, you can tie together. The rest are insulated with plastic connectors and you can tie those back or just shrink tube them together.

Yes, the orange wire, a fusible link for rest of the car power, the red wire, from the battery, and, I think, the black wire on the right side screw.

Like I said, the wires on the two slotted screws can go together. A soldered connection would be the best.

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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

Ok, cool! Thank you sir, there are actually 3 wires on those screws, the orange and red together on one, and the black on the right side...all 3 spliced/soldered together? I just wanna make sure...It's my dad's car and I just want to make sure I don't do anything wrong, especially since you mentioned one of them being for car power?

By any chance are any of these wires hooked up to the wire on the passenger side that went to the battery?

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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

I could be wrong but on my 68 one side is hot all the time and the other is only hot when motor is running....may want to check ?

Don't know if it will do anything or not.

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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

I believe the place all the wires are connected is the infamous corroding buss bar.
Red wire is from the battery. A check with a voltmeter would comfirm battery voltage all the time, or not.

I wager battery voltage.

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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

I have three wires on my horn relay buss bar:

Red: goes to main splice/junction block/alt.
Orange to Black with white stripe: goes to center console gauges. American Auto Wire actually splices the two above together and it isn't connected to VR at all!
Black to Red: Main power to ign., light switch, and fuse panel for fused lights.

Splicing them all together is really no change to the circuit (buss bar serves same purpose and adds power for horns at the relay).


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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

So I don't know if we have done any wiring wrong in our attempt to relocate the battery to the trunk...but I got no volts on any of the 3 wires with the battery hooked up, lights on, and even with the key turned over...? The 2 dash lights came on for the speedo and tach, but none of the console gauges turned on?

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Re: can we ditch the horn relay

What schematic did you use for the battery relocation ?

Just did this and all working well

The one I used...
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