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post #1 of 12 (permalink) Old Apr 10th, 12, 06:34 PM Thread Starter
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Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

I am preparing to rewire my engine compartment and make some plug wires. I found this on Amazon made by Tool Aid. http://www.amazon.com/Tool-Aid-18929-Spark-Terminal/dp/B000GTJA56/ref=pd_sim_hi_3
It says it will do 8.0 and 8.5mm spiral core plug wires. I don't know if they are the same but a side by side of the inserts looks very similar.

Anyone know for sure if these are the same? If so, the Tool Aid tool is much cheaper.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

By looking at the picture they are the same. I have the MSD one.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

The last set of wires I made-up a year ago were 8.5 Moroso's. All they need is one of those .50 cent crimper's that come with terminal boxes. You know, the large round hole with the spear on the other side.
Disclaimer: They work on the distributor end. I would never use such a cheap tool if the plug ends had to be made-up too. Also, the cheap tool is no doubt Chinese. Do you want to go there if you have a choice? My cheapie has been in the tool box over 30 years so that's my excuse and I'm sticking with it.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

Well Matt here,s my 2 cents. Yes they are both the same . S& G makes good stuff but that tool is a little pricey . I have to agree with Fred on this one i have one of those crimping pliers and it,s a real good one but i only paid 8/ 10 bucks for it a long time ago . Look around and i am quite shure you will find a nice crimping pliers for short money. Alex
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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

I have a tylor you get from Summit for something like $30.00 does the job very well. I don't see in that top pic that the die has the stripper for the wires?

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

Thanks for the replies. I will try out a cheaper one. I was considering this one because I also have to crimp some weather pack terminals and one of the inserts is for those. But I have gotten by with needle nose pliers before and will do the same this time.

Also, I think the middle cavity of the tool shown above is used for stripping the wire.

Thanks again.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

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Also, I think the middle cavity of the tool shown above is used for stripping the wire.

Thanks again.
The MSD looks like it for sure, the one above that does not look like it has cutter to strip??

Here is a Taylor tool:

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/TAY-43400/

Summit brand for much cheaper: $36.00 same as the others that are twice the price.

http://www.summitracing.com/parts/SUM-900400/

For the price the tool works just the same as the others, I think they are all the same tool just different handle colors ot a name on them. The dies all fit the same.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

My MSD 8mm wires came with a crimping tool you can put in a vice or use big channel lock pliers to squeeze. Do you already have you wires? If not order a kit with the tool in it.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

Steve. Thanks for the tip. The plug wires are on order and will get here tomorrow. I ordered through Summit and don't see anywhere that it comes with a crimper. But I looked at the MSD wedsite and it shows the crimper you are talking about. Maybe I will get lucky and it will come with one. Will find out tomorrow. Thanks for the heads up.

Joe. Thanks for the links for the crimpers. If I don't get a crimper with the wires and can't work without them I will buy the cheaper ones from Summit.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

Just built a set of msd 8.5 and it came with the cheap crimper. It actually works pretty good with a vice. The hardest part for me was feeding the wire through the boot. I found that if you bevel the outside edge of the plug wire and a little lube it slides through like butter.
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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

If you put some dielectric grease on the wire (which you should do anyway) it will slide through much easier. Just a small dab smeared all over it goes a long way. Just don't get it on the core. Slide it through the boot before you strip the wire.

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Re: Is this the same as the MSD crimper?

I found that using the crimp tool. (ones linked above in my post) and small drop of dawn dish liquid on the plug wire and some on q-tip in the boot worked great for getting the wire into the boot.

I, cut, stripped and crimped the ends. Coated lightly with dawn. I then used the crimp tool ratched down on the very back side of the crimp. I was able to push the boot on over the end very easly, pushed it up to the tool, moved the tool back in small increments until I got the boot all the way on. The tool did not damage the wire at all. I tried on on some cut pieces and measured resistance as I went just to make sure. Just another use for the ratcheting crimp tool that made this job more easy for me.

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