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post #1 of 9 (permalink) Old Nov 28th, 12, 04:11 PM Thread Starter
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Dash gauge cluster question

I have a 67 that i got about 2 months ago. The guy before me did the restoration. He put in the painless wiring system and in the dash he put the autometer gauges (2 larger and 4 smaller gauges).
While it is cool and I know not cheap, I kind of like the original gauges better (for nostalgic reasons). He gave me the original dash gauge panel, so I already have it. The car is not all original, nor is it a #'s matching car.

My question is would I have to rewire just for the original gauges (tach/speedo) and is it possible seeing I have a painless wiring system in the car, or would a major rewiring have to take place? (new technology wiring vs. old original wiring/harnesses)

I also have the 3 gauges under the dash in the center under the radio, but I can/will leave that.

I figured I 'd ask the electrical pros here in this forum, as I am FAR from one!

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All things are possible but you need to know if it is standard harness or custom hooks but in theory you just move the connections you have to the right connectors for the originals.


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Re: Dash gauge cluster question

How would I know if it's standard or not?
Are you saying I might be able to simply disconnect the wire from the autometer tach and connect it to the original stock one??
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How would I know if it's standard or not?
Are you saying I might be able to simply disconnect the wire from the autometer tach and connect it to the original stock one??
I forgot to mention there is an MSD box as well.
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Re: Dash gauge cluster question

Probably best to look at the back of the Autometer gauges and if possible post some pictures. If the speedo is mechanical (ie: cable drive) like the OE and everything else is electric (tach, oil, temp,fule) then the conversion back to OE should be straight forward.

My 2c's on gauges, maybe look at replacing the two OE's with larger 5" after market like others here have done. It gives a somewhat old school look but with better gauges. That's what I plan to do one day.

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Probably best to look at the back of the Autometer gauges and if possible post some pictures. If the speedo is mechanical (ie: cable drive) like the OE and everything else is electric (tach, oil, temp,fule) then the conversion back to OE should be straight forward.

My 2c's on gauges, maybe look at replacing the two OE's with larger 5" after market like others here have done. It gives a somewhat old school look but with better gauges. That's what I plan to do one day.
All the gauges are electric, if that helps.
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Re: Dash gauge cluster question

You will also need a speedo cable if you go back to the OEM type.

You can download the painless instructions. Tells you how to do it

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Re: Dash gauge cluster question

I love having to go out to google because can't search "pcb" here anymore.

Does the stock cluster you were given have all the parts, or just a bezel?

The linked thread shows the rear of the 67 OE cluster, along with its printed circuit board (pcb). On the upper right of the back of the pcb, behind the speedo, is a rectangular hole. An OE plug on the OE wiring harness hooked into this pcb, and the pcb then carried the electricity to the various lights, tach, etc. so you'd need to get the OE plug, and insert the correct wires from the painful harness into the correct locations in the plug. Not impossible, but the pcb used on the 67-68 clusters makes it less straightforward.


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I love having to go out to google because can't search "pcb" here anymore.

Does the stock cluster you were given have all the parts, or just a bezel?

The linked thread shows the rear of the 67 OE cluster, along with its printed circuit board (pcb). On the upper right of the back of the pcb, behind the speedo, is a rectangular hole. An OE plug on the OE wiring harness hooked into this pcb, and the pcb then carried the electricity to the various lights, tach, etc. so you'd need to get the OE plug, and insert the correct wires from the painful harness into the correct locations in the plug. Not impossible, but the pcb used on the 67-68 clusters makes it less straightforward.


https://www.camaros.net/forums/showthread.php?p=1737432
The back of my cluster looks very similar to the one in the first pic in that thread....Does that help at all?
I have a clock and a speedometer. I'd want a tach instead of the clock if I do this swap.

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