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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Mar 10th, 13, 07:10 PM Thread Starter
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Sym-Tech, the cure all for rust...or Snake Oil?

I was in a speed shop the other day, and came across a pamphlet that that read, "Electronic Corrosion Control Module- REFERENCE BOOK.


Being a natural hater of rust, I picked it up, and have just gone through the hand out.

Bottom line, it promises to slow down any rust occurring in a vehicle...but the company is really careful in their wording as to the degree of slowing down the rust! But if it did slow it down, then I was interested.

I just went into their website at sym-tech.ca and found out that this product is but the tip of the mountain of other anti-rust products that they sell including under coating. They aslo offer fabric protection coating for the seats, a paint protection porduct and the list goes on.

I've heard of this approach to slowing down the rusting process by changing the chassis of a vehicle by putting a charge to the surface of the body. With this "surplus of electrons" as they put it, the rust is inhibited in its oxidation process.

Along with this module they suggest a thick undercoating, that they say is used by the dealerships in general.

However, I did find out that in order to get the complete package, a person can spend up to $2k for a complete coverage of a vehicle.!

The company says that there has been extensive "scientific testing" to back up their stopping rust, but that's all you get in the way of an explanation. No stats, no mention of who did the testing, under what conditions, when, how, etc.

So, was wondering is anybody out there has either heard of this company, their product line, the results...or is it it yet a another way to get car guys to part with their hard earned cash?

On a side note, they have been on the scene since 1971, and have a good BBB A+ rating ...for that that's worth, eh?

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Re: Sym-Tech, the cure all for rust...or Snake Oil?

snake oil, sounds way too good to be true.
I always like to start with a rust free car and not worry.

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Re: Sym-Tech, the cure all for rust...or Snake Oil?

Guess I won't try it it...no chimes means nobody bought one?

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Re: Sym-Tech, the cure all for rust...or Snake Oil?

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snake oil, sounds way too good to be true.
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Re: Sym-Tech, the cure all for rust...or Snake Oil?

I wouldn't say it's bogus, but it's benefits are nowhere near the claims made. We sold these at the dealership I worked at up until a few weeks ago. I'm betting you saw the pamphlet with all the impressive scientific studies. LOL. Rust needs air to continue and further rusting, which is why rust paints that seal are so effective.

Unless a car was undercoated new, and this is just my opinion, your money is better spent doing the oil spray like Rust Check, Lucas, etc. New cars built today go through a phosphate process where electrostatic energy is used to bond primer/paint to metal. This is very effective. The rust problems occur when the car receives a scratch or dent that penetrates through to the metal.
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Re: Sym-Tech, the cure all for rust...or Snake Oil?

There could be something to it. I a somewhat but not very aware of Cathodic protection. Used on boats and underground pipelines and water tanks. Generally using zinc anodes as a sacrificial metal. They attach them to steel boat hulls or to pipelines to prevent corrosion. That would be a passive system vs an induced current system where a small charge is induced between a ground and zinc anode. Now how would that apply to our vehicles I am not sure. There are many cases of dissimilar metals, like iron to aluminum, brass, stainless steel that can be an issue. Of course the new fuels corrode our cars too. What are you going to do?

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There could be something to it. I a somewhat but not very aware of Cathodic protection. Used on boats and underground pipelines and water tanks. Generally using zinc anodes as a sacrificial metal. They attach them to steel boat hulls or to pipelines to prevent corrosion. That would be a passive system vs an induced current system where a small charge is induced between a ground and zinc anode. Now how would that apply to our vehicles I am not sure. There are many cases of dissimilar metals, like iron to aluminum, brass, stainless steel that can be an issue. Of course the new fuels corrode our cars too. What are you going to do?
From what I can gather, there are two pads involved, that create a surplus of electrons on the surface of the body, which in turn retards the oxidation from taking place... a good thing, right? In theory it makes sense, but the degree of how well it works is yet another thing as they only hint at in the way of results.

Until I find some third party testing, both their undercoating and the use of this rust inhibitor will be on hold for me.

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Re: Sym-Tech, the cure all for rust...or Snake Oil?

Canadaian Tire ( a carry everything hardware type store for you guys south) advertised it a while back. Have never heard anything good or bad ?
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