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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 25th, 14, 01:41 PM Thread Starter
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Question A Wiring issue?

I have a 67 Camaro, and a new wiring harness must of been put in at one time or another, then the battery was moved to the trunk. I'm installing a MSD box and found when trying to connect it up there was a lot of old wires and fuse links raped up in black tape. digging further the volt regulator is missing, I believe because it now has a alternator rather then the old generator.

Now the question I am asking is what to do?
I am in need of a wiring diagram with colors of the wires, I have found some schematics on this cite but there not quite the same?
I'm rewiring the hideaway light with no issue but the wiring for the positive leads and the ones for the sensors have me confused? Are the fusibility links necessary, Would love to be un confused.

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post #2 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 25th, 14, 03:24 PM
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Re: A Wiring issue?

You probably have an alternator with an internal regulator. These cars never had generators.

The 67 RS headlights are a little complicated to explain. You have to have the relay board and limit switch wired correctly. There are diagrams within Google reach.

If the harness is hacked up wire colors won't mean much and you will need to trace circuits.

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Re: A Wiring issue?

Here is a diagram of the relay board and the limit switches for the doors. See the attachment.

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post #4 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 14, 01:56 PM Thread Starter
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Question A Wiring issue?

Thanks Cdminter55 that is a much better diagram of the head lamp doors!

The issue is the fuse able links are burnt out and is missing the volt regulator,
I'm thinking of getting a regulator and wiring it to the way it was originally done,
Has any one been it this boat and can sagest what to do?
I found a link about the tack and asked what to do there as well!

O I Feel like a bug, But please help me! lol

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Re: A Wiring issue?

Mike the alternator you have now most likely has a regulator built in. If you get a external regulator you will need to also replace the alternator. If you do that you will need to be sure the wiring around the voltage regulator and horn relay is correct. If the fusible link you are talking about is around the regulator you may be fixing two problems by replacing them.

As you see in the wiring diagram above the door control board has it's own circuit breaker. I believe most of us don't understand what fusible links you are talking about. Have you got a picture of these fusible links to give us a better idea their location?

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Re: A Wiring issue?

This is the way the wiring looks on a stock 67 around the voltage regulator.

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post #7 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 26th, 14, 05:28 PM Thread Starter
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Re: A Wiring issue?

I wish I know how to post photos here?
The red wire going to the horn relay with a band of rubber is a fuse able link in your photo, I found three or fore coming from the harness behind the left h/l area. one went to the alternator white then orange then red, with the rubber bands. I believe its the field lead for the alternator.
Alternator has a red to battery and a blue as well as a white.
Was a little disgusted with the condition of all the wires so cut most of it out and re wiring most of them.

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I believe you are right and I'm not needing the voltage regulator.
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This is the wiring diagram underhood 67 Camaro. The red wire with the fusible link goes to the ignition switch. The #10 red wire goes to the battery. Read this thread, they changed your wiring when they replaced the alternator. https://www.camaros.net/techref/ftecref14.html

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post #10 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 27th, 14, 05:13 AM Thread Starter
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Roger

I Thank You!
Now that info is extremely helpful!
You saved many headaches That I was going to have!

Mike

I will try to send up photo's of the cars?
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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 30th, 14, 12:46 AM Thread Starter
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I have made some progress, here is my first attempt to share photos.
these are a before and after. Made a new relay kit for the headlamp doors.
And cut out lots of faulty wiring. all is working just fine, now to start digging into the dash!

Please let me know if you can see the photos?




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Re: A Wiring issue?

Photos are good. I must say the workmanship on the relay terminals and the rest is nice - good crimps and covered with shrink tubing.
Minus ten points for relay mounting with a tyrap, but hey, you did not present it for final inspection, so you're good to go.

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post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 30th, 14, 08:38 AM Thread Starter
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Was late at night, and will have to find a better way to mount the relays.
All the terminals are soldered, I don't believe in crimp's They fail on me all the time. Now most of the issues are taken care of under the hood now to dig under the dash. Time for more head banging. OMG But IL get over it!

Many of the original wires were cut so now to find the other end?

lol Thanks Mike
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Re: A Wiring issue?

Mike your work looks like a big improvement. The wiring diagram I post was from the Assembly Manual. I don't know if that was a help or not. If you are doing much work on your car you need to get one. Most of the suppliers offer then.
http://www.rickscamaros.com/camaro-f...nual-1967.html

In the future when posting pics just use the IMG link. You notice if you click on your posted pics it goes back to your account. That's because you used the URL link along with the IMG link. If you just use the IMG link that won't happen.

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post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old Oct 30th, 14, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the link will look into that!
And as far as the photo's will have to work on that.
I have the dash partly apart now and may not receive the manual in time?
At least it will tell me where I went wrong.
lol its all a learning experience-only wished I could do it in my lazzyboy!

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