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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old Nov 14th, 14, 07:33 AM Thread Starter
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Bad 68 ignition switch?

I stopped in a gas station a week ago with my 68 Camaro and when I went to

start it, it didn't. I know the battery and cables are new so I assumed it was

the starter. I rolled and jumped started the car to get home. While sitting

back in the garage, naturally the car starts every time (always does

there...lol) Went to Autozone and got a starter ($40). Worked fine....for

awhile then it did it again. Obviously the original starter was fine. OK, I can

live with a new starter for $40. Now I figure it has to be the switch itself. Key

note here, after the car is running, I can actually pull the key out of the

running vehicle so we know that's already loose.

How difficult is it to change the switch?

What's involved, a whole new key assembly?

Can I get to it without removing the whole dashboard?

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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old Nov 14th, 14, 07:37 AM
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Re: Bad 68 ignition switch?

Is the starter even trying to engage when you turn the key? If not, then I'd be looking at the neutral safety or clutch safety switches. Does jiggling the shifter while trying to crank sometimes work?

Now if you're hearing an audible click or the engine is trying to turn over, then perhaps the starter, solenoid and other things are at fault.

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Re: Bad 68 ignition switch?

Steve, I think back in the day, you could pull the key out of any GM vehicle while it was running, doesn't mean anything is wore out to my knowledge.

I had a ol 80's pick up and did it all the time in the winter if I needed to unlock the house and didn't wanna pull the key of the ring.Just pull truck key out and let the truck run. Had a few other GM vehicles that was the same way.

Havn't tried on my camaro, but thinking it would.
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post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old Nov 14th, 14, 08:03 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Bad 68 ignition switch?

Deader then Kelsey's nuts...

No clicks...nothing.

Haven't tried moving shifter. It's a four speed Muncie M21

I doubt a 68 even had a neutral safety switch, right?

I just changed the starter with a built in solenoid three days ago, so we can rule that

out. It sits covered in a heated garage with a three month old battery and cables, so we

can rule that out. Obviously battery and cable connections are clean and tight. No

corrosion anywhere.

What other moving part is there but the ignition switch?

When this happened AFTER changing the starter, it did the same thing. Stone dead on

several attempts of the key turn then suddenly power and start.

No slow weak battery start....just pow! up and running

So far everything I'm describing points to a faulty switch with a dead spot of a swinging open...

Yes...No?

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post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old Nov 14th, 14, 08:09 AM Thread Starter
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Re: Bad 68 ignition switch?

I'm a retired phone guy so I can deal with wiring. I'm mechanically inclined but definitely

not a mechanic.

Is this something I can fix myself or take it to somebody else?

I'm no spring chicken either......lol

I don't wanna get stuck under the petals either trying to be stupid cheap.

Some things you fix yourself and some things are best not attempted. If I pull the dash

open I'm liable to create more problems then I started out to fix.



Anybody over 60 ever do this yourself? lol

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post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old Nov 14th, 14, 09:04 AM
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Re: Bad 68 ignition switch?

Since it push starts and there is no click of any kind in the start position, it sure sounds like it's either the switch or purple starter wire.
To get at the switch, it's probably easier to pull out the instrument cluster so you can work it from the side instead of from the bottom.
There is no neutral safety switch on a manual 68, but if it was converted from an automatic there was. It usually gets jumped out on a conversion. Find and check the jumper if that's the case. The other problem could be a bad connection at the purple wire ring terminal on the starter. Ohm out the whole purple wire from switch to starter and the starter switch itself in the start position.
Not that hard, just a little time consuming. The hardest part will be disconnecting the speedo cable to remove the cluster, but you can do that by feel without having to lay upside down with your head in the pedals!
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