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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Nov 14th, 14, 09:06 PM Thread Starter
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Which Wiring Harness?

I am having to do a complete rewire. Does anyone have a favorite brand of harness that they have had experience with?

Any help would be appreciated.

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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

Almost all the recommendations on here are for American Auto Wire. They have stock, updated, etc. I ended up not using the engine bay section of my Painless harness and instead went went with the system from MadElctrical.com. I like his system better but it is not stock. The headlight relays work really well and made a huge difference in the brightness and what I can see at night. I wired my own gauges up as well.

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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

AAW has 2 kits, one is "stock" replacement, the other is the "update" kit.
The update provides additional space/circuits for things like electric fuel pumps and other bells n whistles which weren't part of the stock offerings.

The update kit is UNterminated, so you'll have to crimp all the connections yourself once you determine proper wire length depending on how you want to route everything.
Each wire is marked on the insulation for what it's used for... good system.

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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

American Autowire is the best. Stick with the original system as I did and you will not have any problems. Total plug and play with the correct terminations and colors to match.

Go to their website and educate yourself on what they offer and what is required for your vehicle. There are different looms based on the options in your car. Example: if you have a console car or no console. RS or non-RS, etc.

Don't waste your time with anything less.

Good Luck with your project
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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

American Autowire has served me well many times. The company is great to work with. They did all the research and came up with a conversion harness for my wife's firebird Chevy engine conversion.

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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

In the interest of being fair here: As stated above by many - American Autowire is by far the leader for both OEM style harnesses sold under their "Factory Fit" product line using original style glass tube fuses and all factory colors and connectors, truly plug and play. And for the Auto-Resto-Mod folks the "Classic Update" series line using modern blade fuses and supporting options such as EFI/HEI and other customizations you want to add.

Painless is another popular line but they require you to finish off the leads and do not make a OEM style power distribution panel. I did one project with them and only because my buddy had already bought it and we were trying to get his ride running before deployment. He would have had a day or two longer in the drivers seat if he had purchased a Factory Fit harness, but the painless is still on the job I'm happy to say.

Mad Electrical and Lectric Limited also manufacture decent high quality harness and electrical components. I'm a big fan of headlight relays. And their staffs are also top nothch for customer service and support.

IMHO your own shop / electrical abilities is the primary factor in purchasing a harness or full wiring system. I know guys who think nothing about ripping down transmissions with no fear, but wiring projects faint them out. Spaghetti wiring or fear of cooking the whole ride drive them off those projects unnecessarily.

I have done a few projects with the Factory Fit line and NEVER had a WTF moment and when I did have a color question, their customer service folks got me up and running on the first phone call. If you are replacing a factory installed harness it is as simple as remove old, install the new.

The bottom line will be how much you want to spend BUT remember to factor your time in that equation. We all discount our time to being free. It isn't free. Your time is as valuable as your family and friends and profession dictate. None of us are worthless that is that. So if another harness is cheaper out of the box, but takes twice or three times as long to install when you could have paid a little more upfront but it was plug and play stupid easy and done such as the AAW Factory fit line is the answer is clear.


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post #8 of 16 (permalink) Old Nov 15th, 14, 12:48 PM
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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

Hi Dboz
What is wrong with your original Harness ?
I took my Dash Harness out, had like 6 or 7 wires to fix.

Added Classic Auto Air, MSD with Tach lead for my Tachometer, Electric Choke for my Quick Fuel Technology Carb, A lock up switch for my 700R4 Trans and an Indicator Light for when my Converter is in lock up.

On the Forward/ Engine side, Added an Idiot Oil Press Sensor to my Dash Lights (I have the Mech Oil Press Gauge in my Lower Console), Reconfigured my Starter Solenoid for a Mini Starter (Do not use the S Terminal, Choke Lead, Kill Switch/ Hood Lock and bought the MAD front Electrical kit for a Winter project.

I bought more than I needed including the Double Crimp Packard style Terminal crimper for like $70.00.

Have the Wiring Diagrams, Pictures and help from the Internet.

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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

I bought AAW Factory Fit harnesses to fully rewire my car, cost was ~$1k plus shipping. They were great to deal with. To my way of thinking, it's cheap insurance against 45+ year old wiring that can be brittle, damaged, modified etc.

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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

AAW. Fit like a glove and looks factory
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post #11 of 16 (permalink) Old Nov 15th, 14, 11:44 PM Thread Starter
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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

I wanted to thank everyone for their direction. I had planned on keeping the original harness, but the more I dug, the more I found spliced and frayed wires. I will more than likely go with the factory set up because of the time savings.

Thanks again.

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post #12 of 16 (permalink) Old Nov 16th, 14, 12:04 AM
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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

I used AAW also and would use it again.
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post #13 of 16 (permalink) Old Nov 19th, 14, 04:48 AM
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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

What about Ron Francis? Is the extra cost for a Ron Francis loom worth it?
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post #14 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 2nd, 15, 06:30 PM
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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

Just did a 68 RS/SS with American Auto Wire and it worked flawlessly. Highly recommend AAW.

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post #15 of 16 (permalink) Old Feb 3rd, 15, 09:50 AM
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Re: Which Wiring Harness?

painless is that bad? Or is it just not factory looking enough for most?


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