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post #1 of 15 (permalink) Old Feb 27th, 15, 06:59 PM Thread Starter
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Back up lights always on

Hey guys, sorting out all my wiring issues and got everything working fine except the reverse lights, the are on always as soon as the ignition is on. I tried unplugging the switch and they go out so does that mean the switch is bad or could it be something else?
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Re: Back up lights always on

What year is your car?

if it's a 69, twist your steering column if you are missing the reverse lock out linkage.
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It is a 69 I will try that, how can I tell if I am missing the reverse lockout?
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Re: Back up lights always on

When you shift into reverse the sleeve on the steering column will turn, activating the reverse lights, and out of reverse it will turn the switch off. If you can pull out the key when parked while in first through fourth, the rod has been removed.


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Re: Back up lights always on

Here's a bad picture of the reverse lock out on my 69 Z.




Basically how it works is when you put the car in reverse, it moves the linkage attached to the bottom of the column which in turn activates the reverse light switch located inside the car at the bottom of the column. If you are missing the linkage the column can twist and will activate the reverse light no matter what gear you are in.

Grab the column below the ignition switch and twist it to see if that might be the problem.

I hope this helps & good luck.
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Re: Back up lights always on

Just remember to manually twist it back or you won't get the key out.


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Re: Back up lights always on

If it's a 69 with a factory console shifted automatic trans, twisting the collar on the column won't fix your problem - in this case the switch is connected to the shifter, and is either defective or out of adjustment.


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Hi all, confirmed that the lockout linkage has been removed and from the looks of it because of the header there is no room to put it back :-(
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Hi all, confirmed that the lockout linkage has been removed and from the looks of it because of the header there is no room to put it back :-(
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Re: Back up lights always on

Well, if its an automatic, then run the wire to the console shifter switch and if its a 4 speed, there are numerous switches available for either mounting on the shifter or the tranny lever. Kinda strange that the reverse lights are on from the collumn but the NS switch is not. Also if the collumn was twisted enough for the reverse light to be on then how do you get the key in and out?
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Re: Back up lights always on

There are a limited number of header options for a 4 speed if you want to retain the factory reverse lock out or you have to get creative with your bends and make your own solution to the bell crank.

Most 4 speeds I have ever encountered - with headers or not - have had the lock out disabled. I put mine back on then took it off again. Made it a lot easier to get into reverse.


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Re: Back up lights always on

If I remember correctly the reverse lights are pink and green. Trace them to the neutral safety switch (automatic) in the console if you have one. As mentioned above switch could be bad or out of adjustment.

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Re: Back up lights always on

Reverse lights always on is cool, or so we thought, everyone did that mod back in the day.

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Reverse lights always on is cool, or so we thought, everyone did that mod back in the day.
So true. I should mention I received a ticket because of the mod too. LOL

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Reverse lights always on is cool, or so we thought, everyone did that mod back in the day.
Universal language for "you want to race?" at the traffic light.


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