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post #1 of 6 (permalink) Old Jun 12th, 03, 07:35 PM Thread Starter
 
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I just recently bought a 67 Camaro RS and found that it has an electrical drain problem. When I bought the car, I test drove it, negotiated the price, and when I went to start the car again, the battery was dead. Since then, the car has drained the battery twice. After another dead battery, I suspected it was an old battery so I bought a new optima battery. After letting the car sit for two weeks, I come back to an dead battery. The previous owner mentioned replacing the wiring harness in the car which he said had cured all his electrical problems. Therefore, I assume the wiring harness is not the problem. Is there a way to check for a bad wiring harness or a bad installation that could lead to an electrical drain? If the wiring harness might not be the problem, are there any ideas as to what might cause such a drain? Are there any components that are notorious for draining the battery? What strategies should I use to determine the cause of the drain? Basically, I want this electrical drain problem fixed so I can drive the car daily without the fear of having to jump start my car all the time. Thanks in advance for all the help.
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post #2 of 6 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 03, 05:13 AM
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One strategy which has worked for me in the past
is to check for current flow with everything off. If you have a clock disconnect it. There should be no current flow at this point, however as will be in your case, there will be some flow. Pull one fuse at a time and recheck for current. This will isolate the circuit that is shorting. You can then probe the problem circuit to trace the short. Because there are so many points where this short could occur, once you have a strategy stick to it otherwise you may have problems finding the problem circuit.
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post #3 of 6 (permalink) Old Jun 13th, 03, 08:39 AM
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To check for current flow, use a test light between the battery post and cable (doesn't matter which). I'd recommend not using an amp meter since the electrical system is capable of delivering hundreds of amps. Many DVMs have been fried working on car electrical systems.

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post #4 of 6 (permalink) Old Jun 25th, 03, 10:54 PM Thread Starter
 
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This weekend I tried connecting a test light between the battery and the cable. The light did not go out after all fuses were pulled - it remained dimly lit. An ammeter revieled an electrical drain of 0.150 amps with the radio fuse removed (around 0.350-0.400 with the radio fuse in place). The car still drains the battery. Now I am lost on what to do next. I suspect the alternator is bad, but it still charges the battery at 14 volts. Could it be the voltage regulator has gone bad? I also noticed that there are only two wires going to the alternator, both are terminated with one connector attached at the back of the alternator. Is this a one wire alternator? The alternator gives full voltage to the battery whenever the engine is running. I verified this with a Vat40. When the car is shut off, the battery is at something around 12.75 volts - give or take 0.10 volts. Shouldn't the battery be around 14 volts immediately after the car is shut down? Also, if I wanted to replace the alternatror back to the 3-wire style, what would be involved. The previous owner of the car replaced the wiring harness and I haven't looked if there are more wires for the alternator or not. I hope someone can tell me what to look for in trying to find the electical drain as well as possibly converting the alternator back to a 3-wire setup. Sorry for the long post and thanks for all the great advice.
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post #5 of 6 (permalink) Old Jun 25th, 03, 11:38 PM
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How about hooking up a battery disconnect, the one that connects to the battery post.I know it's not fixing the problem, more or less going around it; but it enables you to keep driving the car without worrying about the battery draining.I use 1-wire alternators on both my cars.At times one car might sit for a couple months,but they'll still fire up.I read an article, I think in my Powermaster catalog, that 1-wire alts. draw a certain amount of current when the car is off. The current draw is very small; but if whatever draws that current is somehow shorted to the alts. case, you'd have a complete circuit.I know it's not much ,but it an idea.
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post #6 of 6 (permalink) Old Jun 26th, 03, 03:11 AM
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Disconnect the alternator wires and repeat your tests. May be a leaking diode in the alternator.
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