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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 00, 05:57 PM Thread Starter
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I'd seen a hint of negativity towards the Painless wiring harnesses in earlier posts - are they actually that bad?

I ask because my '67 has no wiring harness at all, and I liked the way the Painless came across on their website and in the print ads.

I guess the proper question is - which "modern" wiring harness (originality not important) is best? I intend to add power windows/door locks/alarm/etc.

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 22nd, 00, 08:22 PM
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I can't say what's "BEST"...but, several people from this site suggested M & H electrical fabricators (www.wiringharness.com).

I just rewired my '69 convertible from the firewall forward using their harnesses. Colors were right, connectors were right, retaining clips lined up with the holes in the sheet metal...all told, damned easy istallation. They even modified my harness to use an internal regulator alternator. They'll make HEI conversions too. I didn't know exactly how I wanted to go, and they gave me the pros and cons about a few things without a sales pitch.

I'm sure there are other good suppliers, but I am certainly happy with these folks.
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post #3 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 23rd, 00, 08:48 PM
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I wired my car with the painless and yes it is very easy to install and it is nice that every thing is labeled and printed on every wirek, and that is where it ends. If you have a 67 RS car, or a SS car you will run it to problems with the wiring harness. First it does not suport the RS function so you will need to wire that in seperatly. Secoundly if you have a dash cluster that has the speedometer and a tach, the harness is not set up for that , it is designed for the dashes that have the large fuel gauge and the such. So if you want to keep the original gauges you will need to rewire stuff to get every thing right, Or you can do what i did and get all new gauges and just split up the connectors to make every thing work. But for the money you can beat the painless wiring harness

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post #4 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 24th, 00, 03:45 AM
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I'm sorry, it appears I wasn't clear. I DIDN'T use Painless harnesses, and with the little things Painless seems to omit or not support, according to the previous post, it's a good thing I didn't.

Did you check out M & H? I'd bet they have or can make EXACTLY what you need for YOUR application.
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post #5 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 25th, 00, 07:25 AM
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I just finished replacing the fuse block in my 67 with a painless fuse block. I have to say that I probably would have gone with the stock replacement M&H if I hadn't already reworked the painless box to match the factory circuits. It is identical to original from what I can see.
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post #6 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 26th, 00, 03:35 AM
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I used M&H and it was a breeze. I don't usually do electrical harness replacing but it was very straight forward and quick.
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post #7 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 30th, 00, 04:58 PM Thread Starter
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Does M&H have a website? A quick search didn't find one. Failing a website, anyone have a number for them?

Thanks!
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post #8 of 8 (permalink) Old Aug 31st, 00, 04:27 AM
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www.wiringharness.com or search M & H electrical fabricators

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