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post #1 of 8 (permalink) Old Sep 28th, 01, 04:29 AM Thread Starter
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For my '69 Z11 4/speed:
After fighting with my new console gauges for weeks, I am a little closer to success.
The latest problem: I found that I wasn't getting any voltage to the pink wire in the console harness (this supplies the temp and fuel gauges). I traced it back and found that one pink wire was not connected near the steering column (this turned out to be the suspect wire). There was another pink wire next to it that was spliced with a red (don't know if the red is original) wire that connected to an electrical part on the bottom of the steering column. This same part
also has two purple wires leading into the other side. I spliced my pink console wire in with the other. Wow, the temp and fuel gauge needles actually moved when the key was turned on. The only problem with this is the temp gauge buries to the right with the engine never being started and stays there.
What can be causing this?

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post #2 of 8 (permalink) Old Sep 28th, 01, 07:53 AM
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I am also in the process of trying to get console gauges installed and working. Just curious as to what you did to insulate the leads for the volt gauge so they don't short out on the gauge mounting plate?

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Sounds like a ground short. Connection to ground will result in the needle moving full right. This is true for both the temp. and fuel gauges.

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Disconnect the wire from the temp sender and see if the temp gage needle stops pegging. Perhaps you have the wrong sender in there for the gage.
Another place to looks is the ignition switch. The temp line gets grounded just beyond the ON position for an idiot light car. This is what turns on the temp idiot light when the car is started. Switch could have a problem.
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Today, I traced the pink console harness wire back to where I made a repair. I found that I had spliced the wire into the pink wire that comes from the backup lamp switch. I'm not sure where the pink wire to the console harness is supposed to tie in. I will try to tie it into either the pink wire at the tach, or one of the pink wires that go to a couple of the 'idiot' lights. According to my wiring diagram, there are 3 other pink wires that are tied into the pink console harness wire.
Any suggestions would be of great service to me. Thanks.

mwh - I used the included phenolic gasket(I just learned what these things were called) on the battery gauge to insulate the plug and connector pins from the mounting plate. If you don't, the plates will be energized with 12 volts.

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drdave,

Do you mean the approx 1/8" thick piece that locates the terminal lugs? I see how that would keep the two terminal evenly spaced from each other, but I can't see how it keeps the terminals from contacting the mounting plate as they pass through the mounting plate. I tried to be careful and keep the space even around the terminal and the mounting plate hole as I tightened the gauge down, but I can't imagine that that's the correct way to do it.

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On the back of the gauge where the mounting pins originate, there are small plastic 'nipples' that extend into the mounting plate hole. I think these are what insulate the mounting pins. The 1/8" phenolic (I just love using that word now) gaskets insulate and orient the electrical spades on the back.

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Yup, that did the trick. I feel kinda dumb for not looking at the gauge closer. My gauge came with two phenolic insulators, one was already bolted to the gauge. I am not sure why I didn't think to take it off. Thanks,
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