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post #1 of 10 (permalink) Old Mar 3rd, 00, 07:30 AM Thread Starter
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My 67 RS has a 327 with the 2spd powerglide. I just had the heads redone as the engine was in pieces when I got the car, recently I re assembled almost everything, It was a 327 with a 2bbl, now its the 327 with the stock iron heads with with a Holly dominator manifold and a H750 ontop. I threw in a GM HEI ignition modlule that I still need to connect, but now my alternater is giving me some heck. when I looked at the pile of alternator parts in the trunk, I dont know where it goes.. my drivers side manifold has the bold and bracket on it. but there are no accessory holes in the heads. where to I bolt the top to? the intake doesnt have any holes either...anyone have any pictures I could go by???

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post #2 of 10 (permalink) Old Mar 3rd, 00, 09:46 AM
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Sounds like you got early model heads. All Camaros used heads with accessory bolt holes. The only thing I can think of is to go with early model alternator brackets, but they may not line the alternator pulley up correctly with the other pulleys.

The Holley Dominator (I assume you have the single plane) is a more of a race piece, that's why there is no provision for mounting the alternator. Good luck.

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My 67 RS alternator bracket does not bolt to the head. The alt bolts to the ears on the exhaust manifold. and the top bracket bolts to a combo bolt/stud on the water pump and also bolts to the intake manifold in front and to the driverside of the thermostat housing. Unfortunatly I don't have a picture to show you.

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post #4 of 10 (permalink) Old Mar 3rd, 00, 03:37 PM
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Torch is correct. If your exhaust manifold is correct, it should have two mounting lugs on the front/upper section. A separate bracket attaches to this, and finally the alternator. The bracket is fairly thick (1/2") and will only bolt to this manifold location. The stock upper brace is pressed steel that attaches to the upper LH water pump bolt and to a horizontal boss cast into the front LH side of the intake manifold. If you have a parts catalog you will see this boss on all of the dual-plane models, but only on some single-plane. The cheap cure for the upper brace is to use a universal chrome brace that will mount to the LH upper waterpump bolt. They are available through most mail order and parts houses if you cannot find it in the trunk.
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My 67s alt also mounts like Torch's.

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post #6 of 10 (permalink) Old Mar 5th, 00, 03:51 PM Thread Starter
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I see how it lines up, but I do not have the same brackets, I see where the exhaust manifold bolts up and I can see the drivers side water pump bolts with extra studs on them with nuts. I rolled the alternater into the lower bolt, rolled it into "supposid" place, and BUMP it bangs into my new valve covers.. about 3 inches short of the waterpump bracket. I managed to locate a Mrgasket armature that looks like a big loose letter 7 2 bolts that go to the waterpump and then it rolls over to meet the top bolt of the alternator, well it still dont fit. I dont want to lose these valve covers i just spent 70 bux on , so I rigged it for now. I used 1 of the bolts from the set of 2 on the new mrgasket bracket to the top drivers side waterpump bolt, the alternator then can reach fine to the bracket with about 1-2 inches for adjustment of the belt (which now is way to short) I hope they make them big... I havent measure it yet, but at least it fits in the semi rigged bracket... hope it holds...

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Do you have tall valve covers?
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post #8 of 10 (permalink) Old Mar 6th, 00, 05:01 AM Thread Starter
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now i do , the original ones were the old 327 low profile ones with the chevrolet on them, they were ugly, even after a sandblast + repaint. I liked the chrome ones and figured it would fit.

I figured wrong. I did manage to get the aftermarket bracket rigged. I still need to measure the belt routing so I can get a size for the belt.. then its just a matter of sitting in the parts store measuring belts to see what one I need....
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Greatly, If I'm remembering correctly, 1969 was the year for accessory bolt holes on the front of the heads, and long water pumps. All '69 and later the alternator through bolted directly to the front of the head, '68 and prior bolted to a bracket that attached to the exhaust mainfold



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post #10 of 10 (permalink) Old Mar 6th, 00, 07:57 AM
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Tall valve covers and those aftermarket brackets are a pain. I hope that it works out for you. As far as the belt, you may want to try this. Push the alternator all the way against the valve cover and back off so you have about 1/4" clearance. Put the belt on the lower and pump pulley and pull the belt taught by hand as if it were being installed. Measure the distance from the inside curve of the belt (where it would normally ride in the bottom of the alternator pulley) to the outside curve in the bottom of the alternator pulley. Multiply this distance by 2. Head down to your parts store with your old belt and ask for one that is longer by the number you calculated. It should get you in the ballpark. If it turns out that it is too long or short, Gates numbers are easy: each larger number (ie 1705 to 1706) is 1/2" longer in length. After you find the belt that fits, be sure to write the number somewhere on the car so you can replace it on the road in case of a breakdown since the teenage computer parts person will have no clue what you have. Good luck.
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