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post #1 of 11 (permalink) Old Apr 27th, 06, 09:12 AM Thread Starter
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No ingition switch when warm ???

This just started about a week ago on my 69? Only 600 miles on the car. First thing in the morning the car cranks right over without hesitation. Will run all day long perfectly fine. BUT ... when I turn the car off, say to run into 7-11 to get a Big Gulp, and get back in the car and turn the key .... no click, no crank, no nothin ? Electrical is all on and running fine, but key into the starting position and get nothing. UNTIL .... the car sits for a WHILE and cools down away from operating temp, car then cracks right over ????? Anybody help me on this one ????
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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

Possible starter problem. Just a guess. Try this, drive it around for as long as you think it takes to create the problem again, then park it at the house, if it wont start get a BFH and get under the car and tap/hit the starter with the BFH. Then see if it starts. My guess would be a defective starter.

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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

My guess is overheated starter solenoid. Are you running headers?

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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

Simple problem. The solenoid is getting to hot. Classic chevy problem. Happens alot to older chevy trucks as well.
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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

yes ...
running Hooker headers. and like I said this "just" started happening. tried to determine if it was either the ignition switch ... loose wiring .. or a starter issue. but then noticed everything went back to normal once the car cooled down ... which makes it a "heat" problem somewhere
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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

soooo .... maybe some heat shielding for the starter would do the trick ??
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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

I say too much heat on the solenoid. Try one of these kits.
http://www.madelectrical.com/catalog/st-1.shtml

I think there are heat shields you can try too, but the remote solenoid should work the best.

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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

since you are going to need a new solenoid anyway, go to Chevy and buy a real Delco. You probably have a rebuilt starter with a cheap overseas made solenoid, that don't work for ****.

Real easy to change, you might even be able to do it with the starter on the engine.





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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

I had that exact same problem on my '67. AFTER installing a new starter, and setting up the remote solenoid thing - I discovered that the problem was that the big gauge wire going to the starter had gotten too close to the header, melted the insulation and was grounding out.

Mine would start after a long rest, but after I drove it - got out, and then right back in - nothing. I could push start it - but no click, no grinding whirr - nothing.

Before you get too far into replacing anything - get underneath and look around at the wires and headers...

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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

You might be able to heat wrap your headers in that spot nearest the solenoid. It beats having to replace the starter all the time.

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Re: No ingition switch when warm ???

As others have said this is a classic chevy starter problem. A quick fix that works a lot of the time is tapping the solenoid with a hammer or metal bar. If that works you know for sure that is your problem.

If you decide not to do a remote solenoid simply wrapping your headers or installing a heat shield will not be enough as once these solenoids start acting up due to heat they need to be replaced.
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