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post #1 of 22 (permalink) Old May 4th, 06, 12:10 AM Thread Starter
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New Soledoid and .......

Just replaced my starter solenoid.
Replaced all wire EXACTLY how they came off.
And ..... got nothin. No click ... no rrrrrrrrrr .... no nothin.
Did I get a faulty solenoid?

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post #2 of 22 (permalink) Old May 4th, 06, 12:47 AM
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Re: New Soledoid and .......

Did you have that same problem before you changed the solenoid? Usually when you turn the key and nothing happens it's a defective solenoid. Check all the wiring for loose connections all the way to the ignition switch. Grab a test light and make sure that you are getting power to the terminals on the solenoid. Also check the obvious like a dead battery.

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Re: New Soledoid and .......

Didn't have the same problem before I changed the solenoid. Before, when the car got warm and I turned it off, it would not start again until the car just about completely cooled down. Headers where cooking the solenoid. Got replacement solenoid and heat shield. Only 2 small wire and 1 BIG wire to the solenoid, and I connected them EXACTLY how they came off. Now ... no click, no nothin??

Before .... it would start no problem when the car was cold.
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Re: New Soledoid and .......

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Now ... no click, no nothin??
New solenoid may be bad but...

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Before, when the car got warm and I turned it off, it would not start again until the car just about completely cooled down. .
I aasume you mean crank...
A lot of times this problem is a wiring problem, not a solenoid problem. Run a extra wire (10g) from the solenoid "S" terminal to near the battery with a 30 fuse near the battery. Next time the cars hot and won't crank with the key, touch the 10g to the battery pos, (make sure the trans is in park, this bypasses all safety devices) if it cranks, its a wiring problem, if it doesn't crank, its a solenoid/starter problem.

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post #5 of 22 (permalink) Old May 4th, 06, 11:45 AM Thread Starter
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Re: New Soledoid and .......

hmmm ...
everything was fine until the original solenoid started acting up.
when I was removing ... I saw that it was REAL close to the Headers. As in LESS than a 1/4 inch easy. And those headers get H.O.T.

I'll try the old solenoid again while it's cold, see if it a NEW solenoid problem.
If not ... I'll try the little hammer trick.
If not ... I'll go back inside and have a beer :-( or two
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Re: New Soledoid and .......

is your new solenoid a real delco?

While you have the old one in your hand, you might open it and check it out, easy to do. Maybe clean the contacts and the disk, make sure everything moves freely and such. If it's a delco, if it's not, I wouldn't bother.





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post #7 of 22 (permalink) Old May 4th, 06, 12:06 PM Thread Starter
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It's a Duralast Gold ???
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Re: New Soledoid and .......

I would guess that the 2 small wires have been flipped-flopped ...
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post #9 of 22 (permalink) Old May 4th, 06, 12:35 PM
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Since you said that the headers are 1/4'' away from the starter, it's possible that the internal parts of the starter got fried as well. Replace the starter as well with the new solenoid. 9 out of 10 times, when you replace the unit as a whole, it solves the problem.

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Re: New Soledoid and .......

Since you said the headers are 1/4" away from the starter/solenoid it makes me think this will only be an interim repair. You're only fixing the damage, not the problem...

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Re: New Soledoid and .......

hmmm ....
well the headers surely won't move. so what's a cure? smaller starter?
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I run a tilton Super Starter on mine...
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Re: New Soledoid and .......

oooooooooooook ...
went out tonight and checked all the wires ... all was fine.
did a little tap tap with a hammer ... still no click or crank.
desided to remove the starter again and remove the "new" solenoid and put the "old" solenoid back on ( with a heat shield ) ... car fired right up.

would you call this a bad "new" solenoid ?
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Take it back to where you got it and get your money back

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post #15 of 22 (permalink) Old May 5th, 06, 11:46 AM Thread Starter
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Re: New Soledoid and .......

I swear it NEVER ENDS !!!!!!!!!!
Car started just fine this morning. Even let it get HOT, turned it off, waited a minute, fired right back up no problem.

BUT !!!!!!! Now there is a GRINDING noise coming from the engine when under throttle???? Little throttle, lot of throttle ... sounds like putting a stone in a tin can. But ... get off the gas and no sound at all? Can this be related to the starter at all????
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