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post #1 of 16 (permalink) Old Dec 24th, 06, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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Question brighter headlights with no relays

I'm looking to install slightly brighter headlights and not have to install relays etc. I prefer to keep the wiring stock. Anyone know of such headlights??
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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

Try using a newer type bulb like the Sylvania Brite White for about $20.00 each. The best way is to follow what is done here in the link http://www.madelectrical.com/electri...adlights.shtml


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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

Going with a higher wattage bulb is only going to dim the dash/rear tail/brake lights more. The stock wiring system just cannot handle that kind of electrical draw well. Buy the relays, they are cheap.

30 Amp Relays $1.39 each
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=330-073

12V 5Pin relay socket with 12" 14 gauage pigtails $1.75ea
http://www.partsexpress.com/pe/showd...number=330-075
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12V 5Pin Dual Relay socket with 12" leads $1.90ea (Only Need 1 for Headlights)


Ring Terminal Kit - $11.09
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#10 (16-14) Ring Terminal 50 pcs $2.95
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Butt Splice (16-14) 50 PCS $3.25
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Black Heatshrink (4ft) $2.13
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Dorman 60361 Fusible Link 14ga $2.54 from RockAuto.com

If rewiring to the headlights, get 14 gauge at Pep Boys for $6, else Butt Splice into existing wiring harness!



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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

thanks guys - I haven't done any research - I was hoping there was a newer type (halogen?) bulb that used the same wattage, and was brighter. I agree the relay is obviously better - I'm kinda anal about the stock wiring. Any other ideas??
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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

There are absolutely halogen replacments for the stock headlight bulbs. The most common are also a sealed beam type, the same wattage as stock, and replace the original lights exactly.

I use them (without relays) and they give a much "better" light than stock.

The relays are a good idea, and will help the brightness of any headlight bulb by eliminating voltage drop in the wiring.





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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

Are they the bright white kind? Where do they sell them?

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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

The relay install is very easy and you get all the parts to make it look stock.
There are 2 relays, 1 for low beam the other for high beam
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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

replacement sealed beam halogons are sold in every auto parts store, or even the auto department at walmart.





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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

Classic Industries makes a kit that PLUGS IN to the stock wiring harness and provides relays. Its only about $22 I think

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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

check-out the Sylvania "Silverstar" hi-performance halogen units. direct plug-in units. part # for a Camaro is H6024ST. the box reads:"whitest, brightest, 100% street legal". they yield excellent lighting while maintaining a stock-appearance, and required no modifications to the wiring.

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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

One thing that comes to mind if I install the relays etc. is the fact that my dash lights will be brighter because of more voltage at that location. But the dash lights will burn-out sooner... and you know how much a pain in the .. they are to change.
Brian, where in the Classic catalogue did you see the plug-in kit??
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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

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One thing that comes to mind if I install the relays etc. is the fact that my dash lights will be brighter because of more voltage at that location.
If I was doing it I'd put the relays in the headlight circuit between the headlight switch and the dimmer... Then the headlight gets the higher voltage and the rest gets normal voltage as factory designed. One relay would do high and low.If you use a relay like a common fuel pump relay with terminals labeled 30, 85,86,87,87a. Hook it up like this wire from h/l sw to 85, hook 86 to ground, put battery to 30, and wire to dimmer to 87, 87a not used. It's not as hard as you think! Any ? feel free to PM

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One thing that comes to mind if I install the relays etc. is the fact that my dash lights will be brighter because of more voltage at that location. But the dash lights will burn-out sooner... and you know how much a pain in the .. they are to change.
Brian, where in the Classic catalogue did you see the plug-in kit??
Maybe you ought to see if you can find a car that has a dash light dimmer control and swap that into your car. I think you can find these to fit the original wiring system.
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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

The OEM wiring wasn't up to par as it was. The relay upgrade helps the OEMs. If you go to an upgraded lamp, that's even more of a reason to install relays IMHO.

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Re: brighter headlights with no relays

I wired my headlights using MAD Electric wiring diagram. The fellow that owns MAD Electric knows his stuff on automotive wiring. He believes in relays. One of the best things I did was put relays on my headlights and electric fans. Have bright headlights and fans are workinga full power with no drop in voltage.
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