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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 05:03 AM Thread Starter
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I'm going to look at a '69 Camro this saturday and wanted to gather your thoughts on what to look for. Trouble areas common to that year?

The newspaper ad listed it as: '69 Camaro SS, One owner, garage kept, 89K miles, $8900.

However when I called the guy he said it turned out that it wasn't an SS, that a collector had come by and pointed out all the reasons that it really wasn't. I found that to be a little weird - the original owner doesn't know what kind of car they have?

Anyway, he said it has 89K miles, ralley wheels, 12 bolt rear, Muncie 4 speed, 250hp 350, Hugger orange (repainted 10 years ago) with white stripes, no rust, a good driver.

What do you guys think?

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post #2 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 05:09 AM
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beware of rust around the wheels, in the trunk, around the rear window, etc.

Is this car being sold by a dealer by any chance? I recall a sale of a car that matches your description on Ebay awhile back that was out of Illinois. They were marketing it as an SS and said that it had the 350/255 horse motor...
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post #3 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 05:24 AM Thread Starter
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No it's not being sold be a dealer. It's actually up in Madison, WI, which is a 3 hour drive for me, so I want to make sure I know what to look for while I have the chance.

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post #4 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 05:37 AM
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It's possible that the car may be an SS, but without the original engine. Things to look for on an SS are: 1)check the firewall tag, if it has an X?? code, it can denote if a true SS. 2) 12 bolt rear (already there). 3) front disk brakes. These are the most obvious things that have to be there, but not a complete list. The telltale sign will be in the firewall tag. Get a decode listing of what the codes mean to help you out.

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post #5 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 06:15 AM Thread Starter
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Is there a RPO code list on the internet somewhere?


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post #6 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 06:19 AM
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Look for rust in front floor pans, rockers and rear frame rails also SS cara will have front disc brakes the list goes on.Just do your homework good luck.
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post #7 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 06:24 AM
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Should be an easy buy. If he is like stated the orginal owner he should I hope still have all the paperwork to include the POP that came with the car.
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post #8 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 07:05 AM
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Biggest thing to look for is rust. Check the rear quarter panels from within the trunk to see if new partial qtr skins were ever put on. Check the dates and codes on the 12 bolt rear. They are on the passenger side facing toward the front of the car. You'll need a flashlight and probably a stiff brush to clean it off. Get the info off the cowl tag, the engine pad and check the transmission too. Check the carb to see if it's a 2 or 4 bbl and get the #'s off that as well. If the car is solid and has the original 350/4 speed with 12 bolt rear, that's a decent price even if it isn't an SS350.

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post #9 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 07:23 AM
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bring a mirror with you, to check out the floor and quarters

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post #10 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 08:23 AM
 
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And take a flashlight to peek into the door with the window rolled down, looking for signs of skin replacement, rust and bondo. Also a phillips screwdriver, take the vents off the rear quarter near the door striker. You can see the rear inner wall and rear quarter sheet metal from the inside.

Also make sure the rear leafs are the same, I bought mine and later found out one spring had 5 leafs and the other was a monoleaf. Ouch!
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post #11 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 08:47 AM
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Make sure you don't look at this car at night, it can hide all sorts of problems, not to mention that it's white, that color hides damage well. Bring a fridge magnet from pizza hut or the like (flexable thin kind) and put it all over the car to check for heavy bondo. It will fall off it there is too much....
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post #12 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 09:30 AM Thread Starter
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Thanks for the link to Camaros.org. A lot of good information there - I thought us Corvette owners were meticulous about the details!

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post #13 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 11:45 AM
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Rust, rust, rust. Look at the condition of the body bushings, especially the middle and rearmost. That's were the subframe will rot through. Repairable but not fun. If there's a mat in the trunk, pull it up and look. Jack the car up ( with stands ) enough to carefully check the floors. There may not be an X code on the trim tag if it was made prior to the end of Dec.but SS' had disc brakes.

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post #14 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 03:05 PM
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If it a One owner Car you would think this guy would know if he bought it as an SS or not. Just a Thought.

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post #15 of 17 (permalink) Old Dec 12th, 01, 03:20 PM
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sounds like this guy may have bought it from the orig. owner and is just a middle man,??
The orig. owner would know what he has....
be careful...

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