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post #1 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 08:45 AM
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What is the difference between a 200R4 and a 700R4?
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post #2 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 09:07 AM
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The 200-4R is almost a direct replacement for a Powerglide or Turbo 350 tranny, some mods will be needed. The 700-R4 is a longer tranny, so you will have to shorten the driveshaft and a Turbo 400 crossmember will have to be used. It also will need to be relocated back a few inches on the frame rails.

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post #3 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 09:10 AM
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Which is better, which is stronger and able to tkae more punisment?
 
post #4 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 09:15 AM
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the 2004-r is the Buick Grand National trans.and the 700r-4 is the more common GM trans. The 200 has similar gear ratios to a TH 350 where the 700 has a much lower 1st gear. If you currently have "high" gears likke a 3.08 you will love the 700. The 700 does require shortening your driveshaft where the 200 doesn't. There is a big debate on which trans. is better. Check out www.700r4.com and LET THE DEBATE BEGIN !

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Note: A th-400 crossmember is not a bolt in with a 700r-4.

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post #6 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 09:26 AM
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I ave a mildly built 350 with a m 21 now and a 3.73 12 bolt posi
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If you must convert your 4.sp 3.73 to a
slush box.......

Tranny gear ratios ec.
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<BLOCKQUOTE>quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by FrankP:
If you must convert your 4.sp 3.73 to a
slush box.......

Tranny gear ratios ec.
http://www.dalesplace.com/htm/inform...calculator.htm
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Other than not having to shift what benifit is a powerglide (slush box) for his car?

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Sorry I was speaking about ALL automatics as "Slush Boxes" I just like four speeds more for street driven hotrods. I know everyone will attack me for this....but that's just because their car came with a slush box from the factory! Plus it only took me two trannys and three shift kits to set-up my current automatic....and I think I need to change the stall now too. I usually only buy 4-sp hotrods but this time I wavered.

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It's all about what you're after!! Spend a summer crusing around the SF bay area with our club or just sitting in traffic around any urban area and you'll be glad you have a "slush box"! Which unofficially really only refers to powerslides.... I mean powerglides.




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post #11 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 02:19 PM
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Couldn't talk the little lady out of the auto?

When I was looking around at 2004r's the local shops convinced me to go with the 700r4. Most of the 2004r's they had dealt with were the lessor version that came in Monte Carlos , etc.

I'd go with the 700r4 unless you can find a 2004r from a GN or can afford one of beefier after market versions.

There is no doubt with the available parts and expertise that the 2004r can me made to withstand more abuse. But your wallet will definitely notice the difference.


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post #12 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 03:44 PM
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Here is my .02.

The gear ratio for the TH200 is 2.75, 1.57, 1.1 and .67.

The gear ratio in the TH700 is 3.06, 1.63, 1.1 and .70.

There is a big space in ratio from 1st to 2nd on the 700 than in the 200. Which I have been told that could bog you down more on the 700 unless you really wind it up.

The other thing is with equal amount of money to spend "beefing up" either transmission you can get the same endurance. Accourding to some of the techs at Art Carr etc., they say that they race 900hp engines in front of their TH200s. Iv'e also been told that the 700 has a limit on how much HP you can push with it.

The 200 is smaller and is a direct bolt on for TH350s. The 700 is a lot bigger and I assume HEAVIER!

So, I guess when I get the $$$$ ill get a 200 for my 67. Hope this helps. MY .02.

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post #13 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 04:32 PM
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if I were to put in an overdrive auto (other than wanting to slap a GV gear splitter on my TH350) I would go with the 200-4R for the reasons stated above... little easier installation, better gear ratios in my opinion, and about the same cost.
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I understand where you guy's are coming from,but why did GM only use the 700r-4 in new Camaros, corvettes, and pick-ups? A 3.73 ratio would be the same 1st gear equivalant to a 4.56 with a TH-350. From my own experience 4.11's are to low for the 700r-4 I have owned and driven various pick-ups with the 700r-4 and a 3.73 gear and I was happy with them. Of course they mostly had a 31" tire also !!

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post #15 of 20 (permalink) Old Jan 16th, 02, 07:03 PM
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Heck I'm not even going to wast my time trying to talk her out of it. Just wasted time when her mind is made up. I do guess I will go with 200R4 unless to many people advise against it though. I plan on buying a beefed up one why get cheap now.
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