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post #1 of 17 (permalink) Old Apr 12th, 17, 08:48 AM Thread Starter
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shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

Been searching for quite a while and haven't found what I'm looking for.

Anyone have photos or measurements of the shifter hole in a first gen camaro with an f-body ls1/T56 installed with Holley mounts??

Trying to get an idea how much farther back the new hole will be and how much I will have to patch.

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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

It is best to install the engine and tranny first and then locate the exact location of the hole in the tunnel
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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

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Been searching for quite a while and haven't found what I'm looking for.

Anyone have photos or measurements of the shifter hole in a first gen camaro with an f-body ls1/T56 installed with Holley mounts??

Trying to get an idea how much farther back the new hole will be and how much I will have to patch.

Thanks
if you look at my build thread it does have a picture of the location but I am using holley mounts with a ls3?


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It is best to install the engine and tranny first and then locate the exact location of the hole in the tunnel
Not planning to cut until I have it in, just wanted to see photos to get an idea of how I will patch the existing hole.....will the holes overlap etc....
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if you look at my build thread it does have a picture of the location but I am using holley mounts with a ls3?
Thanks, but it looks like you used the T56 Magnum transmission......the magnum version has a different shifter location than the f-body T56.
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oh yep sorry


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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

Exactly. Too many variables to cut your tunnel based in what someone else did.

Drop in the motor and tranny to determine the exact location for the hole.
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Exactly. Too many variables to cut your tunnel based in what someone else did.

Drop in the motor and tranny to determine the exact location for the hole.
Again, I'm not planning to cut the hole until I get the motor and trans in, that is NOT why I asked the question!!
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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

Hi Mark -

I have not yet cut my new hole, but I have a T56 installed with the Holley setup. The front of the t56 shifter cup lines up almost exactly with the rear side of my old Muncie hole. My Muncie hole is not from the factory and I am not sure how my hole compares to a factory-cut hole. This plays a part on where it lines up. If you would like pics, I can text them to you. Just PM me your number.
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Hi Mark -

I have not yet cut my new hole, but I have a T56 installed with the Holley setup. The front of the t56 shifter cup lines up almost exactly with the rear side of my old Muncie hole. My Muncie hole is not from the factory and I am not sure how my hole compares to a factory-cut hole. This plays a part on where it lines up. If you would like pics, I can text them to you. Just PM me your number.
Thanks for the response. Grabbed this photo from another forum, any chance you can measure from the front of where the new hole will be to where the tunnel starts to angle up to the firewall (red dot in photo)??






Got the old motor and trans out today, need to notch the crossmember for alternator clearance (using f-body alt/PS brackets) and I'll be ready to drop the LS/T-56 in.

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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

Mark just a suggestion here. I would weld up the existing hole with new metal if you are certain the current 4 speed hole is NOT correct. Then, when you are ready, cut a fresh new hole exactly where you need it to be.

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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

My guess is that the new shifter will be 2" or so further back. You may be able to cut out some from the back of the existing hole to patch the front of it.


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Mark just a suggestion here. I would weld up the existing hole with new metal if you are certain the current 4 speed hole is NOT correct. Then, when you are ready, cut a fresh new hole exactly where you need it to be.
This imho is the best way to proceed

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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

I took a bit of a different approach to this, although probably not one the purists amongst us will find acceptable. I enlarged the original hole as shown in the first photo. I spot welded nuts on the tunnel to attach the cover plate shown in the second photo. I used socket head bolts to attach the plate and used thin 1/8" thick self-stick (on one side) rubber foam strip tape (comes in a roll at the hardware) under it sandwiched between the tunnel and the plate to seal it off. The 2 longer 1/4-20 bolts shown partially inserted in the front of the cover plate are what I used to attach the extensions I made to hold down the front of my console. I figured if I ever needed to remove the shifter mechanism it's way easier to quickly pull out the seats and pull up the front piece of carpet than have to jack with the engine/trans under the car and there was already a hole there anyway. Makes it easy to fill the trans the first time; just pour in the ATF and bolt on the shifter plate/tower. Just food for thought.
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Re: shifter location first gen ls1/t56 with Holley mounts?

Guys, I appreciate the input, I really do, but can anyone answer the actual question I asked??.......I asked if anyone has photos or measurements of the shifter hole in a first gen camaro with an f-body ls1/T56 installed with Holley mounts??

The shifter hole may vary in size, but with the holley mounts and the f-body T56, the location should be very specific.

Thanks!
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