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What is involved? Putting in air on a 69...

What is involved in putting in air on a 69 Camaro? There is not an engine in the car so getting to everything is going to be easier.
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Re: What is involved? Putting in air on a 69...

if it is a non-air car you need to take whole heater box off which in turns you need right front fender off car.take glove box out and heater controls. drill holes for a astro vent on right and left side of dash. run the new lines and hoses.its a day or 2 job.
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Re: What is involved? Putting in air on a 69...

Just open the window......

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Re: What is involved? Putting in air on a 69...

THNX for the info! Opening the window would be nice, but summer in Alabama does not lend itself to that tatic, espically in traffic.

Can anyone point me to online instructions/how to or maybe a recommended restoration book?

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Re: What is involved? Putting in air on a 69...

http://www.classicair.com/Camaro69.asp

Instructions download is 3/4 down the page.

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Re: What is involved? Putting in air on a 69...

Factory type air is very complex and the conversion on a non air car is really tough. I recommend something like vintage air. Their kits have instructions.

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THNX everyone!
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Frank, I put the vintage air kit in my Z,, used a factory dash pad and factory center vent to make it look better. What I liked about vintage was they use the factory heater controls . Like you, out here where the dirt blows constantly, you need AC.

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Did you guys charge your unit's, if so did you get those cans they sell at most auto parts stores? or take it somewhere to get it charged?

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If the vintage air kit uses the heater controls, then how do you control the heat? Granted I have not read the instructions...
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I installed a Vintage Air in my 69' with factory air. What a PITA. The hard part isn't under the hood, it's the "under dash" part. Here is Vintage Air's download page for instructions.

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If the vintage air kit uses the heater controls, then how do you control the heat? Granted I have not read the instructions...
I just finished...last night...putting a vintage air in my 67,not quite the same as a 69 but close enough. On the install you have to take the existing heater control and change the cables and blower switch.What happens is the new blower switch is operated by the on/off part of the original control, just fan control as with the original .The hot/cold slider on the original controller turns on and/or off the A/C...cold side, Heat...hot side.There is a control knob on the new blower box that adjust the tempurature.I dont have the car running yet so I cant attest to how it operates,but I found the install and instructions to be mediocre at best.The instructions were vague in many places where they really needed to be specific and they have a real ***-backward problem in a few places where they tell you to do step A and then afterward you realize that step B would have been alot easier to accomplish with step A out of the way. All in all it was not a bad installation if you take your time and if you get frustrated walk away. I did mine over the course of 5 days...about 2-3 hours a night...with beer...so add your own timing in here as needed.I heard good stuff about the Classic? air system but I had already bought a vintage by that time so I didnt look into it that deep but I know some of the guys have it...might be worth a look
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I installed one on my 68 over the winter and i agree 100% with 67pat comments. Also the vintage air unit is non servicable if the heater core should fail you have to remove the whole unit and ship back to them for repairs. I understand that the classic unit is serviceable if you have a problem with the heater core. Also it was very diffucult here in NJ to find a shop to crimp the style fittings they use. You can index the lines and fittings and send back to them and they will do it for you free of charge. I had my system charged at a local garage becuse the sysytem needs to be evacuated with a vacum pump for at least 45 minutes. I will say all in all now that it is done it does spit ice cubes. One last thing I dont understand is why there kit does not include the throtle solinode to increase your idle when you swicth the unit on. You would think for what they cost it would be a complete kit.

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I installed one on my 68 over the winter and i agree 100% with 67pat comments. Also the vintage air unit is non servicable if the heater core should fail you have to remove the whole unit and ship back to them for repairs. I understand that the classic unit is serviceable if you have a problem with the heater core. Also it was very diffucult here in NJ to find a shop to crimp the style fittings they use. You can index the lines and fittings and send back to them and they will do it for you free of charge. I had my system charged at a local garage becuse the sysytem needs to be evacuated with a vacum pump for at least 45 minutes. I will say all in all now that it is done it does spit ice cubes. One last thing I dont understand is why there kit does not include the throtle solinode to increase your idle when you swicth the unit on. You would think for what they cost it would be a complete kit.
You know I was thinking of that today...what did you do about the throttle cellenoid?did you find one or just keep the rpm,s 100 higher in the summer?
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I havent done anything yet but I am going to put a throttle cellenoid on in the near future.

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