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post #1 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 18th, 07, 12:54 PM Thread Starter
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radiator hose clamps

i've seen some cars that have rubber hose clamps, not bands, on their radiator/water pump hoses. who makes them? they look real clean.
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post #2 of 21 (permalink) Old Jul 18th, 07, 12:59 PM
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Re: radiator hose clamps

They are a product made by Gates. I've gotten them from McMaster-Carr.
http://www.mcmaster.com/nav/enter.asp?pagenum=247

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Re: radiator hose clamps

Not vary practical if you ever have to replace a hose or just need to disconnect one to work on the engine...

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Re: radiator hose clamps

thanks for info.
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Not vary practical if you ever have to replace a hose or just need to disconnect one to work on the engine...
I completely disagree, respectfully of course. I have been doing the Gates clamps for years (over 10) on all kinds of applications... and they have more advantages than conventional clamps IMO.

First, they are very good looking. Second, they provide MORE clamping force than conventional clamps. Third, they can simply be cut carefully off with a knife, razor blade or their tool and replaced easily with a like one. Of course you need a heat gun or heat source. I carry a mini-torch and this will do it nicely. Forth.. it never damages the hose or leaves big indentations on the hose. Fifth. They never loosen or leak.

You can see them all over the place under the Camaro's hood here...



You can see them on the 57 tooo!



I even use the small ones on fuel lines. They actually are tighter!

So, what's the problem? I think they are very practical!

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Steve I never said they didn't work, look good etc. I think carrying a heat gun or portable torch as well as at least 4 spare clamps with you in case you need to replace a hose is impractical. As it is I have to over night mail clothing to the hotel i'm staying at when I travel in the ragtop. A reusable hose clamp keeps the tool list simple and saves room...

Ya I know guys that will carry a floor jack in their trunk and find that practicle. Two sides to every coin, right?

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Ya I know guys that will carry a floor jack in their trunk and find that practicle
Now that's funny!

Actually, I travel quite a bit.. Florida, Charlotte, Indy, Columbus, even Texas GGs and many trips to Pigeon Forge... and have never had to replace one. ACtually I carry a minitorch to do shrink tubing in electrical issues. I have never used it on my cars.. but lots on others.

Also, even if I had real old-timey, obsolete metal clamps.. I would always carry two because you never know when these come apart I think we can all agree.

But, whatever.. ... let the masses decide.

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Nice looking engine bay. Just wondering where I can pick up a air cleaner base plate that fits your cowl induction hood? I have a 69 RS Camaro with a Holley carb and would like to eliminate the hot engine bay air.

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For just a quick disconnect, I followed the same plan as CarlC and used Aeroquip Quick Disconnect Fittings... I think it looks nice.

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Nice looking engine bay. Just wondering where I can pick up a air cleaner base plate that fits your cowl induction hood? I have a 69 RS Camaro with a Holley carb and would like to eliminate the hot engine bay air.

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Jeff.. thanks for the kudos on the engine compartment! The air cleaner base that you see in that picture I designed and made from ..... are ya ready... are ya sitting down....it's a heavy duty baking pan! YEp.. 18"X 3" of heavy duty aluminum that is affixed to the air cleaner bottom plate.

Go here for more information for pan... http://www.lloydpans.com/productdisp...ound_Cake_Pans

I modelled the pan to offset on the aircleaner base by cutting a hole in the pan and affixed with rivets. Worked great! I also had to cut the top edge down as well a smiggin to meet the hood exactly. I left about 3/4 of an inch for the rubber gasket. I also powder coated the pan and base silver. Then bought the rubber edge (still have a piece of that... I would give it to you if you decide to go that way) that looked like the stock one.. or you could buy that piece from a supplier I guess.

Here's a slightly better picture...


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Thanks for the "baking tip" on the carb. base. I am definitely interested in fabricating one. Is there anything else I need to successfully do it right the first time? Any specs are appreciated. Pictures during fabrication? etc.

One more question for you. Where did you get the upper radiator hose set up?

Thanks for all your help,

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Thanks for the "baking tip" on the carb. base. I am definitely interested in fabricating one. Is there anything else I need to successfully do it right the first time? Any specs are appreciated. Pictures during fabrication? etc.
Thanks for the PM too. I will post some information here (this thread... so everyone can see) soon, I was NOT good about taking pictures or recording exactly what I did... but will do my best to hook you up with the right parts and procedures.

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One more question for you. Where did you get the upper radiator hose set up?
The upper hose assembly you see there in the last picture I fabricated from a Camaro upper hose.. and a mini-tube that I concocted on the autolathe. So, it's a custom piece and I got alot of questions about it.. and would NOT have even attempted it without the vary hose clamps subject of this thread. They are so clean that they allow that hose. You could do the same thing with a stainless 1.5" tube.

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Carl Casinova and Mark Mutert have both done the cake pan air cleaner as well. Check out their pages...

http://www.geocities.com/casanoc/
http://home.earthlink.net/~mutert23

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For just a quick disconnect, I followed the same plan as CarlC and used Aeroquip Quick Disconnect Fittings... I think it looks nice.
Hopefully I will see them next month. It looks good on yours, but not so good on mine I think.

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If u use std stainless jubile clips and put the worm drive underneath
The cover with electical heat shrink...if u postion right when it shrinks it will also cover clean over the end on the hose
If out on the road, slice the shrink off, throw away...
Its no biggie to replace with a new peice later.

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they provide MORE clamping force than conventional clamps
There is nothing wrong with correctly fitted clamps, so this is a non issue...and too much force damages the laminations of the hose.

My Spelling is not incorrect...it is creative

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