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post #1 of 18 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 11, 01:57 PM Thread Starter
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vintage air ac/heater hoses

I plan to buy the vintage air system in the future(cant afford it now), but I already have the sanden compressor that came with my march serpintine setup. So I wanted to intall the 2 cooling and 2 heating hoses through the firewall behind the inner wheel well. I read what I thought was a good idea, which was instead of installing a bulkhead, just drill 4 holes and install rubber grommets...so if you had a leak, it wouldnt be in a spot you couldnt get to.

I dont know that much about a/c lines and compressor/evaporators but I was hoping I could just get the correct fittings to either loopback or cap the hoses under the dash for now and in the future connect them to the vintage air unit. I dont think there would be an issue with the heat but not sure about the a/c. Any suggestions or help appreciated.
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post #2 of 18 (permalink) Old Feb 14th, 11, 02:08 PM
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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

Topher, you may want to get in touch with Frank at Prodigy Customs at http://prodigycustoms.com/ Frank is very helpful around here and is a sponsor as well and sells/installs vintage air systems. He offers a hidden hose routing just like your are planning. He may be able to work something out with you. Hope this helps.

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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

I will contact Frank and see what he can offer. Thanks Jim.
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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

Vintage air will sell you part components as you go. Call them.

I would gut the heat system and buy the firewall plates at least for now. Also, you can just buy the Vintage AC/ heat box and put the hose kit, etc on later. The box itself is not that bad in price.

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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

If you get the 67 Chevelle blower motor cover to rout the 4 hoses through the side vent area through the blower hole and it will work. I have pics how I did mine if you look at some old threads. You don't want all those bulk head connectors, just run the hoses to the engine. Works great and hides the hoses.
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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

Bruce can you show us some interior pictures?
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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

You can use the fresh air cap with 4 holes in it from VA for a 66/67 Chevelle.

I have the March Serp System on my 69 line with the Sanderson Comp. I'm in the process of adding VA as we speak.

You'll have to use a different Hose/Line Part # as the VA SureFit mounts the Comp on the Driver side.


I'm just going to use the Firewall Plate as routing though the Fender and Fresh Air Hole is a PIA (did it on my 66 Chevelle)


VA sell the need Hose Kit. You can call them for the Part #
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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

I see you smoothed your firewall already. Did you fill in the hole for the blower motor. If you did then just use 4 grommets instead of the chevelle plate.

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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

Also, since you have a smooth firewall, you will need to weld a couple of studs to the interior side of your firewall to mount the vintage air unit. This may cause an issue since your firewall is already completed.

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Also, since you have a smooth firewall, you will need to weld a couple of studs to the interior side of your firewall to mount the vintage air unit. This may cause an issue since your firewall is already completed.
This is what we did when we test fitted the unit before doing the firewall. We wanted it to mount alittle more securely. And not have screws sticking through.
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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

The firewall had already been smoothed when I bought the car and when I look under the dash on pass side, I can see a square hole in the original firewall sheetmetal about 6"x8". Was this done correctly? Looking into the space behind the kick panel, I can see a round hole in the original firewall which is where I was thinking of putting the 4 grommets for the hoses to come through. Looks like I would have to do some cutting around the top edge of the kick panel opening if I went that route. After talking with a tech at VA, I might take John's advise and use the VA plate in the square opening mentioned above. I think the "sure fit" system with the different hose/line part# will work. The evap. box was $780.00. Thanks for all the advise everyone.
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Also, since you have a smooth firewall, you will need to weld a couple of studs to the interior side of your firewall to mount the vintage air unit. This may cause an issue since your firewall is already completed.
you have pics of these studs that need to be welded on the inside?? Dang I smoothed out my firewall too NOT KNOWING anything about studs needed to be welded?? Prob gonna mess up my paint huh?


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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

Armando, I also dicussed this issue with the tech. at Vintage Air. You may be able to fab up a bracket that would attatch to the cowl area above the firewall, then bolt the box to the bracket. The installation instructions can be downloaded off thier site to get an idea how it might work. Like that color!
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Armando, I also dicussed this issue with the tech. at Vintage Air. You may be able to fab up a bracket that would attatch to the cowl area above the firewall, then bolt the box to the bracket. The installation instructions can be downloaded off thier site to get an idea how it might work. Like that color!
This is what I would do and If you need to add some to the bottom they could secure to the very bottom ofthe firewall where it starts at an angle down. Then you would not see the bolt heads.

I am getting ready to start installing this on my friends car next week.

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Re: vintage air ac/heater hoses

This is what I did on the last install. It was a gen1 kit though. I cut the inner metal above the hole of the kick panel so the hoses did not come out real low in the kick panel area.










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